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Animal Testing; Right or Wrong?

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nemesiss said:
i have no particular position on this subject, but i do wonder....

how much are the expenses of animal testing?

How much would cloning assist in such experiments?
what are the pros and cons of cloned animals vs bread animals?

can we make proper computer simulated tests that could replace biological organisms for testing?

could we create single cell organisms and/or bacteria to use for testing to replace large animals?
if this is already possible and being used, on what scale?
Cloning would seem to me way too expensive to aid in animal testing. If it is profitable, we would be doing it already. I see no pros in using cloning and the cons are expenses and a lack of genetic variety. Having genetic variety would increase the information gained because the results do not come from the same genetic subject. People react different to medicine so I would guess that animals do the same. We might bring a dangerous drug on the market because the animal tested might have a positive reaction or we might have a miss because an animal has a negative reaction.

As for computer testing, it is too difficult as far as I know to have a good simulation. I do not know much about simulating biological systems but chemical systems require some effort. Single cell organisms aren't an option, they are too different. We do use tissues and similar things, however, we still need to do testing on live animals. A medication might bring positive results on a tissue sample but it might not have a positive reaction on the whole animal. It is very difficult to find alternatives to animal testing, and the fact that we don't use alternatives shows that it is not profitable yet to use these alternatives.
 
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Dragan Glas said:
Greetings,

As of 11 March 2013, the EU has banned the selling of cosmetics in the EU which have been tested on animals.

EU bans cosmetics tested on animals

Kindest regards,

Jamse

It's incredible it's taken this long.

I don't know of any moral reason for putting an animal through harmful testing just so you face can look a little more orange.

Thanks for linking :)
 
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Morally dubious. Unfortunately necessary to test the safety of new treatments like vaccines. It's just too risky to test them on human cohorts without some animal safety trials. I like that alternatives are being worked towards but it will take a long time to replace animal models and I'm ok with this research because of the benefits and knowledge that it brings.
 
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