Anchor babies targeted by new legislative group

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The state legislative activist group State Legislators for Legal Immigration has announced a new piece of model legislation. If approved, this bill would remove citizenship status from children born to illegal immigrants. These kids, called "anchor babies" by some, are a new target. The immigration debate will likely go this direction this next year. This can lead to a vast amount of immigrants applying for payday loans to get their citizenship. Article resource - State Legislators for Legal Immigration take aim at anchor babies by MoneyBlogNewz.



What you need to know about anchor babies



"Anchor babies" is a name given to people who are born in the United States to parents who are illegal immigrants. The kids are United States citizens. They have parents that aren't though. This is allowed by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, which states:


"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."



Also, there is the Civil Rights Act of 1866 that gives citizenship in the U.S. "to all persons born in the United States not subject to any foreign power."



The info you need to have on State Legislators for Legal Immigration


Pennsylvania State Representative Daryl D. Metcalf started the State Legislators for Legal Immigration. There is a mission statement within the group. It says they work for " eliminating all economic attractions and incentives (including, but not limited to: public benefits, welfare, education and employment opportunities) for illegal aliens, also as securing our borders against unlawful invasion." This group has supported Arizona's controversial immigration reform and has employed constitutional and legal scholars to provide support to states trying to reform immigration.



Model legislation about anchor babies



If the parents are not citizens, then children won't be able to have citizenship with the "model legislation" that the SLLI released. The SLLI suggests that it is easier to get around the immigration procedures with the citizenship-by-birth that is getting illegal immigration encouraged. There have been lawmakers from 40 states to sign on the SLLI even though no state has tried to pass the model legislation yet. The legislation is going to be more controversial than ever. The state that passes it first will face one of the most grief.



Citations



State Legislators For Legal Immigration

statelegislatorsforlegalimmigration.com/NewsItem.aspx?NewsID=10195



Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Clause

 

[nasher168]

Moved to a more appropriate area.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

"Anchor babies" is a racist and rather stupid term. Further, states cannot legislate around the Constitution, another sign of the stupidity of these racist cretins.

Also, try using a reliable, credible source for your news next time.

 

[ArthurWilborn]

"Anchor babies" is a racist and rather stupid term. Further, states cannot legislate around the Constitution, another sign of the stupidity of these racist cretins.

Also, try using a reliable, credible source for your news next time.

Aaaaand the inevitable cry of "Racist!" when no-one was talking about race. :roll:

 

[RichardMNixon]

Aaaaand the inevitable cry of "Racist!" when no-one was talking about race. :roll:

While I agree with you that the OP didn't support one side or the other, I've never heard anyone upset about anchor babies that aren't Hispanic.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

While I agree with you that the OP didn't support one side or the other, I've never heard anyone upset about anchor babies that aren't Hispanic.

This is the same thing that he tried to pull in the thread about the Arizona shooting. Nothing has context, nothing can be linked to the things it is actually linked to. We're supposed to pretend that there's no link between racism and anti-immigrant rhetoric and anti-immigration policy positions, no matter what evidence there is. Everything exists in a magical right-wing delusion where nothing negative ever connects to their positions, ever. All sorts of fallacies and mental gymnastics required, but what the hell.

The term "anchor babies" is a racist term, created by racists to stir up racist anti-immigrant sentiment without having to use more explicitly racial pejoratives. It is also in large part based on this weird conspiracy theory that people intentionally have children here in order to cement their own residency in America, even though the law doesn't actually allow for anything of the sort.

 

[Gnomesmusher]

Aaaaand the inevitable cry of "Racist!" when no-one was talking about race. :roll:

And the dishonest smoke and mirrors from the right leaning crowd continues. You can pretend it's not about race just like how the Grandfather clause was a slick way to exclude blacks from voting while letting poor whites vote but without directly stating such discrimination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause

The term originated in late-19th-century legislation and constitutional amendments passed by a number of U.S. Southern states which created new restrictions on voting, but exempted those whose ancestors (grandfathers) had the right to vote before the Civil War. The existence of slaves before the Civil War effectively excluded African Americans while allowing poor and illiterate whites to vote.

Targeting "anchor babies" is yet another slick way of being racially discriminate without actually stating so because "we" all damn well know that most of these anchor babies come from hispanics not white europeans.

 

[ArthurWilborn]

Aaaaand the inevitable cry of "Racist!" when no-one was talking about race. :roll:

While I agree with you that the OP didn't support one side or the other, I've never heard anyone upset about anchor babies that aren't Hispanic.

Because most of the illegals are Hispanic. If the majority were Martian, we'd be upset about the greenies. Don't forget the long history of opposition to Irish immigration.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

Because most of the illegals are Hispanic. If the majority were Martian, we'd be upset about the greenies. Don't forget the long history of opposition to Irish immigration.

I think it's sad about how quickly people forget struggles and strifes that their families went through - and turn into the monsters that their forefathers hated with an undying passion.
What happened to America? Land of the Free, and Home of the Brave?

What happened to:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me...?"

I love my country. I will fight to the death for her, and her people. But this shit just isn't cool -
can someone quote me some Twain?

 

[ImprobableJoe]

I think it's sad about how quickly people forget struggles and strifes that their families went through - and turn into the monsters that their forefathers hated with an undying passion.
What happened to America? Land of the Free, and Home of the Brave?

What happened to:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me...?"

I love my country. I will fight to the death for her, and her people. But this shit just isn't cool -
can someone quote me some Twain?

It is the same racist, anti-immigrant place it has always been.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

It is the same racist, anti-immigrant place it has always been.

That can describe any country with politically-motivated organizations that are set-in-stone about who can be counted as "Us" and who's "not Us."
Take the Conservative Party (Please someone coreect me if I'm wrong. But I did hear that there was a certain party that did this) in England - some of their people are extreme to the point of making Immigration standards rediculous.

On that note-
Happy Late-Martin Luther King Jr. Day!

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

This would be good if illegal immigrants were a big problem. As far as I know, in the US illegal immigrants are not a problem. So this just does not seem such a good idea to have this legislation.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

That can describe any country with politically-motivated organizations that are set-in-stone about who can be counted as "Us" and who's "not Us."
Take the Conservative Party (Please someone coreect me if I'm wrong. But I did hear that there was a certain party that did this) in England - some of their people are extreme to the point of making Immigration standards rediculous.

On that note-
Happy Late-Martin Luther King Jr. Day!

Yeah, America isn't really unique or special when it comes to human nature. Occasionally, we rise above it a little bit but it doesn't make the underlying problems go away.

 

[ArthurWilborn]

This would be good if illegal immigrants were a big problem. As far as I know, in the US illegal immigrants are not a problem. So this just does not seem such a good idea to have this legislation.

Some reading material for you.

http://www.cairco.org/econ/econ.html

 

[Mapp]

Darn that 14th Amendment to the Constitution, it foils them every time. It wasn't enough for these people that they had to kill the Dream Act, a bill that would give a path to citizenship for people living in this country their entire lives, now they have to go after actual citizens.

 

[Gnomesmusher]

Darn that 14th Amendment to the Constitution, it foils them every time. It wasn't enough for these people that they had to kill the Dream Act, a bill that would give a path to citizenship for people living in this country their entire lives, now they have to go after actual citizens.

And yet these are the same folks screaming at how these immigrants are stupid and illiterate and not doing anything for the country but they'll block a bill that would give these people who actually get an education and serve their country their citizenship. It's xenophobia at best and racism at worst.

 

[Giliell]

If it weren't in fact killing people, it would be kind of funny to see the grandchildren of immigrants telling the kids of immigrants that THEY don't have any right to be there :?

 

[ImprobableJoe]

If it weren't in fact killing people, it would be kind of funny to see the grandchildren of immigrants telling the kids of immigrants that THEY don't have any right to be there :?

Well, you have to be the white right kind of immigrant.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

BTW, anyone who says that this isn't linked to racism is a lying piece of filth:

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/profiling-arizona-legislator-russell

 

[ArthurWilborn]

BTW, anyone who says that this isn't linked to racism is a lying piece of filth:

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/04/legislators-work-with-anti-immigrant-hate-group-to-gut-14th-amendment/

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/profiling-arizona-legislator-russell

That's about as credible as this:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/09/23/barack-obama-bill-ayers-stanley-kurtz-makes-connection

Oh, Joe, you old hypocrite.