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AMERICAN ARE STUPIDS!
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RigelKentaurusA
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I'm getting better at guessing who started the thread just by looking at the title. :lol:
Open ended questions in the title are usually hinting at a thread authored by worldquest, claims are usually indicative of threads having been committed by the less cognitively inclined, neutral statements indicative of the better posters on this forum, ... yea, there are certain trends. An all-caps-title is a bit of a giveaway indeed.RigelKentaurusA said:
Democrats for the win.
U.S. president Party Term years Start debt/GDP End debt/GDP Increase debt ($T) Increase debt/GDP (in percentage points)
Roosevelt/Truman R 1945-1949 117.5% 93.1% 0.05 -24.4%
Harry Truman D 1949-1953 93.1% 71.4% 0.01 -21.7%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1953-1957 71.4% 60.4% 0.01 -11.0%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1957-1961 60.4% 55.2% 0.02 -5.2%
Kennedy/Johnson D 1961-1965 55.2% 46.9% 0.03 -8.3%
Lyndon Johnson D 1965-1969 46.9% 38.6% 0.05 -8.3%
Richard Nixon R 1969-1973 38.6% 35.6% 0.07 -3.0%
Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 35.6% 35.8% 0.19 +0.2%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 35.8% 32.5% 0.28 -3.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1981-1985 32.5% 43.8% 0.66 +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 43.8% 53.1% 1.04 +9.3%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 53.1% 66.1% 1.40 +15.0%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 66.1% 65.4% 1.18 -0.7%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 65.4% 56.4% 0.45 -9.0%
George W. Bush R 2001-2005 56.4% 63.5% 1.73 +7.1%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 63.4% 83.4% 2.63 +20.0%
Barack Obama D 2009- 83.4%
Not a single democratic presidency since World War 2 has increased the deficit.
So fuck your democratic hating propaganda.
Sources:
-U.S. Office of Management and Budget
-www.whitehouse.gov
U.S. president Party Term years Start debt/GDP End debt/GDP Increase debt ($T) Increase debt/GDP (in percentage points)
Roosevelt/Truman R 1945-1949 117.5% 93.1% 0.05 -24.4%
Harry Truman D 1949-1953 93.1% 71.4% 0.01 -21.7%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1953-1957 71.4% 60.4% 0.01 -11.0%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1957-1961 60.4% 55.2% 0.02 -5.2%
Kennedy/Johnson D 1961-1965 55.2% 46.9% 0.03 -8.3%
Lyndon Johnson D 1965-1969 46.9% 38.6% 0.05 -8.3%
Richard Nixon R 1969-1973 38.6% 35.6% 0.07 -3.0%
Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 35.6% 35.8% 0.19 +0.2%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 35.8% 32.5% 0.28 -3.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1981-1985 32.5% 43.8% 0.66 +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 43.8% 53.1% 1.04 +9.3%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 53.1% 66.1% 1.40 +15.0%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 66.1% 65.4% 1.18 -0.7%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 65.4% 56.4% 0.45 -9.0%
George W. Bush R 2001-2005 56.4% 63.5% 1.73 +7.1%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 63.4% 83.4% 2.63 +20.0%
Barack Obama D 2009- 83.4%
Not a single democratic presidency since World War 2 has increased the deficit.
So fuck your democratic hating propaganda.
Sources:
-U.S. Office of Management and Budget
-www.whitehouse.gov
Demojen said:Democrats for the win.
U.S. president Party Term years Start debt/GDP End debt/GDP Increase debt ($T) Increase debt/GDP (in percentage points)
Roosevelt/Truman R 1945-1949 117.5% 93.1% 0.05 -24.4%
Harry Truman D 1949-1953 93.1% 71.4% 0.01 -21.7%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1953-1957 71.4% 60.4% 0.01 -11.0%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1957-1961 60.4% 55.2% 0.02 -5.2%
Kennedy/Johnson D 1961-1965 55.2% 46.9% 0.03 -8.3%
Lyndon Johnson D 1965-1969 46.9% 38.6% 0.05 -8.3%
Richard Nixon R 1969-1973 38.6% 35.6% 0.07 -3.0%
Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 35.6% 35.8% 0.19 +0.2%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 35.8% 32.5% 0.28 -3.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1981-1985 32.5% 43.8% 0.66 +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 43.8% 53.1% 1.04 +9.3%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 53.1% 66.1% 1.40 +15.0%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 66.1% 65.4% 1.18 -0.7%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 65.4% 56.4% 0.45 -9.0%
George W. Bush R 2001-2005 56.4% 63.5% 1.73 +7.1%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 63.4% 83.4% 2.63 +20.0%
Barack Obama D 2009- 83.4%
Not a single democratic presidency since World War 2 has increased the deficit.
So fuck your democratic hating propaganda.
Sources:
-U.S. Office of Management and Budget
-www.whitehouse.gov
An overwhelming evidence that rednecks love to screw USA!
FaithlessThinker
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Code:
U.S. president Party Term years Start debt End debt Increase debt Increase debt/GDP
/GDP /GDP ($T) (in percentage points)
Roosevelt/Truman R 1945-1949 117.5% 93.1% 0.05 -24.4%
Harry Truman D 1949-1953 93.1% 71.4% 0.01 -21.7%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1953-1957 71.4% 60.4% 0.01 -11.0%
Dwight Eisenhower R 1957-1961 60.4% 55.2% 0.02 -5.2%
Kennedy/Johnson .. D .. 1961-1965 ...... 55.2% ... 46.9% ......... 0.03 ................. -8.3%
Lyndon Johnson D 1965-1969 46.9% 38.6% 0.05 -8.3%
Richard Nixon R 1969-1973 38.6% 35.6% 0.07 -3.0%
Nixon/Ford R 1973-1977 35.6% 35.8% 0.19 +0.2%
Jimmy Carter D 1977-1981 35.8% 32.5% 0.28 -3.3%
Ronald Reagan .... R .. 1981-1985 ...... 32.5% ... 43.8% ......... 0.66 ................ +11.3%
Ronald Reagan R 1985-1989 43.8% 53.1% 1.04 +9.3%
George H. W. Bush R 1989-1993 53.1% 66.1% 1.40 +15.0%
Bill Clinton D 1993-1997 66.1% 65.4% 1.18 -0.7%
Bill Clinton D 1997-2001 65.4% 56.4% 0.45 -9.0%
George W. Bush ... R .. 2001-2005 ...... 56.4% ... 63.5% ......... 1.73 ................. +7.1%
George W. Bush R 2005-2009 63.4% 83.4% 2.63 +20.0%
Barack Obama D 2009- 83.4%Anyway he's right. Why did all the post-1973 Republicans increase debts while all Democrats decrease it?
And a bigger question: Will Obama break the trend?
FaithlessThinker said:
Republicans spend a fortune of the country's money in interfering in the affairs of other nations and spend less money on developing their own country.
Eisenhower was the best republican president America has had in the last hundred years. Standing behind civil rights and building a stronger local community, under his presidency, a lot of positive social change occurred.
Obama and democrats have spent this country into almost fatal debt, so much that our credit rating is going to be downgraded.
Big government isn't the answer (spent tons on New Orleans after Katrina, it's still a mess).
States need to take care of their own.
Big government isn't the answer (spent tons on New Orleans after Katrina, it's still a mess).
States need to take care of their own.
FaithlessThinker
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I don't get you. According to the stats above, republicans are the ones who increased the debt after 1973 while all democrats* since 1945 have decreased the debt. (Negative percentage increase in debt means the debt has decreased.)havanacat said:
*Here, 'all' means those who served their terms already. Hence, Obama is not included.
FaithlessThinker said:
That and there's the fact that republicans recently gave away gigantic tax cuts to the rich, which would have helped that debt problem much more so than the "anything but the military" government spending cuts they shoved through by all the depraved means they could think of. To be fair though, the Dems were more than happy to cave into 90% of the republican's economic ideas recently.
Hedley said:
It appears to me that it's often the Dems who create the need for increased spending because they are unable to make tough choices in foreign policy. Much of the debt is caused by Democrats running isolationist policies and not promoting world wide capitalism. Indeed, the Rep party was founded on the Dems not dealing with the issue of slavery once and for all, and the US was desperately poor after the civil war since Lincoln (R) had to empty the coffers. Wilson and FDR (D) didn't jump into WW1 and WW2 before they had become total wars with all their associated expense. Wilson's contributions to the fight against Communism in Russia were negligible, which came back and bit all the subsequent presidents in the ass.
Eisenhower in particular, and to a certain extent Nixon, reduced the debt by running excellent foreign policy such as the groundwork for the Vietnam exit and the detente with China and the Soviets. Which leads to one of the worst presidents: Carter. The direct link between the Carter doctrine and the Bush doctrine are clear. If GW2 and it's associated spending is to be blamed on anyone, it's the Democrat Carter. If Bush had been a true conservative, he would not have listened to Carter in foreign policy.
ImprobableJoe
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And Obama has simply caved into Republican demands on economic issues, continuing the Bush tax cuts and endless wars. Republican policies are bad for the economy, that's just a simple basic fact. It is nearly as basic a fact that the economic principles of right-wingers are cult-like and faith based, and have no relation to things like reality or evidence.FaithlessThinker said:
ImprobableJoe
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Here's the same sort of religious thinking on the economy. The fact that Bush followed the right-wing economic idiocy and it failed yet again cannot be evidence that the policy failed, it simply means that Bush wasn't magically pure enough. The idea that the policy would only work if a "true conservative" tries the same failed ideas is lunacy.Arcus said: