Amazing Poem.

[Chirios]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIaKOgSswE8&feature=related

"Revolutionaries don't get job security. They compete with rats for cheese and strays for shelter after the big bullets make feet out of their knees."

 

[The Bitter Truth]

I liked his music for what it was, and while he was the atypical rapper (on occasion), he was still a gangster. I cannot support the fact that *popular* rap music glorifies criminals and activity that would exempt you from getting a regular job and degrades women, while engaging in reverse racism and elitist behavior. Gangster? Yes. Revolutionary? No.

"This is how we do it on our side
Any of you n****s from New York that want to bring it,
Bring it.
But we ain't singing,
We bringing drama
f*** you and your mother f***ing mama.
We're gonna kill all you mother ****ers."

"Hit em up" - 2pac

 

[Unidentified]

Tupac is the most overrated rapper of all time. Apart from Eminem, any rapper you hear of being the best rapper ever is far from it in reality. Don't even get me started on Biggie.

Andre3000, Rakim, Eminem (pre-Encore), Big Pun (possibly most underrated of all time)...all better than Tupac. Rap in general sucks, but I'll still defend the genre for its overlooked complexity, especially lyrically. Tupac, though, he wasn't complex at all, barely a 'poet' in his lyrics either, about 1 in 10 of his songs were 'poetic', 1 in 20 had real lyrical complexity, it was/is his delivery and whole style that made him what he was/is. The atmosphere he created with his music, too. If he said even half of the deeply profound things he said during conversations, rants, or interviews, then he'd be a contender for the best ever, but he didn't.

Don't get me wrong, I still listen to Tupac...I have almost everything he ever recorded. I'm a fan, he's just hugely overrated, and Biggie too. Same goes for Biggie, though, I'm a fan and still listen.

 

[Shapeshifter]

Not clearly on topic, but anyone who likes Rap, especially underground / non-mainstream HipHop, will probably like the rhymes and beats pod casts by Audio1:

http://rhymesandbeats.wordpress.com/

I didn't like Rap for a long time, but I started listening to it through these mixes. Good stuff.

More on topic, from all the mainstream Rap, only Eminem was outstanding. Non-mainstream clearly wins.

 

[Chirios]

I liked his music for what it was, and while he was the atypical rapper (on occasion), he was still a gangster. I cannot support the fact that *popular* rap music glorifies criminals and activity that would exempt you from getting a regular job and degrades women, while engaging in reverse racism and elitist behavior. Gangster? Yes. Revolutionary? No.

"This is how we do it on our side
Any of you n****s from New York that want to bring it,
Bring it.
But we ain't singing,
We bringing drama
f*** you and your mother f***ing mama.
We're gonna kill all you mother ****ers."

"Hit em up" - 2pac

You've missed like, the entire point of the poem dude. The point the woman was making was that Tupac was raised by and grew up around people who used to be revolutionaries, people who were in the black panthers, people who marched with Dr. MLK jr. and then noticed the juxtaposition between the people who marched with luther king, and his generation, who sold drugs, who were in a gang, and who were in it "for the money".

 

[Minty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8wV8uzLKLM

You must listen to this. Rap at its finest.

And for 'real' poetry, try 'Porphyria's Lover' and 'Der Erlkonig'.