All things have a 100% chance of happening...

[Durakken]

I was thinking about this last night... don't ask why... if you think about it then everything in the universe has a 100% chance of happening when you look at it from the perspective of infinite time...or timelessness.

Even if there is only a 1/999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 chance something can happen the probability is that it will happen.

If something has a 1 in a trillion trillion trillion trillion shot of happening... something like say existence then it will absolutely occur because in infinite time and timelessness the ability to for the variables to align in a way for it to occur will happen as long as the possibility for it to happen is there.

There has to be some sort of math describing this >.>

 

[Salv]

I think it's a good idea to figure out what has 1 trillion (etc) shots of happening?

I strongly disagree with the statement that everything in the universe has a 100% chance of happening. It's just too broad.

 

[MRaverz]

With infinite time, infinitely impossible things will eventually occur.

It's one of the many problems with infinity.

 

[Salv]

I would agree if we were talking about an infinite number of universes, but given that most things in this universe don't have an infinite amount of time to accomplish something. I could say something really broad like, the moon will never collide with betelgeuse and you could probably say that it's possible, given an infinite amount of time (which would never happen in this universe?), but I very much doubt that it would have a 100% chance of happening. Or did I completely miss what was originally being stated?

 

[Durakken]

But see but we're talking in infinities... and that implies that there are infinite universes in and of itself.

 

[Squawk]

Can the same thing happen an infinite number of times consecutively? Can that same thing happen an infinite number of different ways? And can both of the above statements be true?

Infinity is a poor concept to apply to reality, indeed mathematical "tricks" had to be invented to work around it. Until and unless infinity is shown to apply to reality I will ignore it.

 

[86h8]

What can happen does happen. Each moment is exactly the way it is out of unfathomably large numbers of possibilities. The grains of sand on every beach shifted slightly just now, in the ONLY way they "could" have shifted because that is the way they DID shift. I recently heard that every second, at least 1 billion new grains of sand are created on planet Earth...

I understand what the discussion is about: (forgive my slang equation) infinite possibilities + infinite space and time = 1.0 (probability)

Theoretically, I believe you would be correct in that thought, but my brain (as I would imagine anyone's) literally cannot begin to comprehend such a large number of possibilities or dimensions, so it will have to remain theory, at least for now

 

[DrunkCat]

I was thinking about this last night... don't ask why... if you think about it then everything in the universe has a 100% chance of happening when you look at it from the perspective of infinite time...or timelessness.

Good thing time isn't infinite.

 

[CupOfWater]

I understand now why infinites are so disliked.

 

[scalyblue]

All things can't have a 100% chance of happening, because there will necessarily be some things that are mutually exclusive of other things.

 

[Shaedys]

If there was a infinite number of universes with every possible event occurring, then for the most part.
But some things just have a 0% chance of occurring.
Though anything that has a chance above 0% to occur would occur given infinite time and infinite universes.

In our universe time is not infinite however, and if the moon crashes into the Earth that same moon can't get hit by one of our trash cans at nigh light-speed before it crashes into the sun. Because its already crashed into the Earth.

 

[nemesiss]

I was thinking about this last night... don't ask why... if you think about it then everything in the universe has a 100% chance of happening when you look at it from the perspective of infinite time...or timelessness.

so that means i have chance to sprout wings,i can train long enough to fire lighting from my eyes, i can turn my body into fire, i will own a raptor-jesus [insert bullshit], etc...

this is the nonsense of trying to insert infinity into something finite...

 

[borrofburi]

All things can't have a 100% chance of happening, because there will necessarily be some things that are mutually exclusive of other things.

It's not so much a 100% chance of happening, as it is a 100% chance it will happen eventually. Under this model of the universe, what happens is that a 99.9% chance means that, after an infinity (taken to be 1000 here), 999 times it happened, and once it didn't happen.

 

[nasher168]

The probability that I will not, in my entire life, eat a slice of toast has precisely zero chance of happening, as I have already eaten several thousand slices of toast.

 

[Giliell]

Only in multiple universes.
(got into the wrong leg of the trousers of time?)
Just take the simple example of my last 15 minutes: I ate pasta. I could just as well have eaten rice/bread/cake/choclate/nothing/the dirt from under my shoes/swallowed a bottle of toilet cleaner.
Obviously, only the pasta happened. For the other events to happen, there must be a me again (same genetics, same life, not one second different) and the exact same evening (and it was a bad one, I don't wish it on anybody, let alone me again) and then I must make a different decission.
How can that happen? Things could not be the same again, an awful lot of stuff had to happen a lot of times and some trillion gazillion thingyillion times more to cover all the possible decissions I alone have made so far.
And then there's everybody else and their decissions and since their decissions influence mine theres another thigyillion mes doing things differently and now my brain hurts.

 

[Master_Ghost_Knight]

This is a gross misunderstanding of the real world for several reasons.

 

[Don-Sama]

Well with infinite anything can happen really.. but yea infinity either does not exist or to big to grasp.

 

[DrunkCat]

These threads make me glad that time travel is impossible.

 

[xman]

I have to agree that the math would be too funky to support that claim. I have said, however that in an infinite (or nearly so) universe, why should I be surprised at anything which happens no matter how unlikely an event may seem.

 

[Master_Ghost_Knight]

I have to agree that the math would be too funky to support that claim. I have said, however that in an infinite (or nearly so) universe, why should I be surprised at anything which happens no matter how unlikely an event may seem.

Because the majority of the events are impossible, and can only be described conceptually, i.e. not real.