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Alex Jones' cannon fodder.

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On my featured list in YT this morning came this little chestnut:



Now you can watch the entire thing if you so please but I just took my time over the "links in the description for all the information we will cover" with the first few minutes of the video. Couple of reasons for this, firstly I can't stand the bugger, and secondly I've got a job to be doing:

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Okies so we have 5 links to Alex's armageddon bunker, 1 link to the Daily Mail (which by comparison is almost tame and readable), 2 links to another youtube conspiracy nut regarding drugs in the water supply, codex alimentarius and so on.

To quote the DailyFail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1299540:
He (Dr Robert Sapolsky) says the hormone becomes toxic both biologically, by destroying brain cells and weakening the immune system, and socially, when people continue to snap at their friends or family hours after the original cause of tension has vanished.

After early setbacks, the Stanford team has adapted a herpes virus to carry engineered 'neuroprotective' genes deep into the brain to neutralise the rogue hormones before they can cause damage. The virus is now shown to work on rats.

Quite where Jones' pulls "brain eating" from is a bit of a mystery. Quote mining would be a reasonable explanation here. At about 1:10 in the video it's the shock :eek: expression with the following:
Inject live viruses into your body...and attack your brain.

Google searching for "Live virus vaccine" and I refer to Wikipedia's epxlanation on Attenuated Vaccines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine#Attenuated:
]Attenuated

Some vaccines contain live, attenuated microorganisms. Many of these are live viruses that have been cultivated under conditions that disable their virulent properties, or which use closely-related but less dangerous organisms to produce a broad immune response, however some are bacterial in nature. They typically provoke more durable immunological responses and are the preferred type for healthy adults. Examples include the viral diseases yellow fever, measles, rubella, and mumps and the bacterial disease typhoid. The live Mycobacterium tuberculosis vaccine developed by Calmette and Guérin is not made of a contagious strain, but contains a virulently modified strain called "BCG" used to elicit immunogenicity to the vaccine.

I would suspect this is the state of the virus being used, and is a method commonly used for vaccination Wikipedia describes.

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To summarise here - I didn't set out to debunk this entire video. I'm making a point that with 10-15 minutes of open-sourced internet research (rather than Info-Flaws.org and Cheese n' Planet.com) it's pretty obvious just how much Alex Jones will make something pretty interesting and potantially life-saving look so ridiculous.


/rant
 
arg-fallbackName="Commander Eagle"/>
Or, instead of you wasting fifteen minutes of your life trying to do research to prove that he's insane, you could watch his review of the Watchmen movie.
 
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Commander Eagle said:
Or, instead of you wasting fifteen minutes of your life trying to do research to prove that he's insane, you could watch his review of the Watchmen movie.

Was more as a placement to the people who post up here spouting his stuff as the ultimate truths, and as an experiment for myself to see how easy/hard it is to debunk this.

I'll take you up on the Watchmen review. Sounds... entertaining.

UPDATE - yeah I need to carve my eyes out now :shock: Fair play there Commander.
 
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Commander Eagle said:
Or, instead of you wasting fifteen minutes of your life trying to do research to prove that he's insane, you could watch his review of the Watchmen movie.
I've haven't seen his review, but please please please tell me he took Watchmen as a documentary :lol:
 
arg-fallbackName="Nemesiah"/>
I don't know.... Alex Jones is Waaaaay out there but is he pourpousley misleading or is it just a case of not taking his medications?

I want to belive he whole heartedly belives what he says, because then he would be a guy worried for his well being and that of others, or do you think he is just an attention hungry whore?

Also his basic premise "Don't trust the goverment or big buissines" has some merit I believe

I could be just a case of too much passion and not enough research (and quote minnig yes)

I Know he is christian but I think that he would actually prevent his kid from drinking the watter (it may be misguided but not intentionaly deceitfull)

What do you think?
 
arg-fallbackName="Your Funny Uncle"/>
He's not only deluded he has a seemingly large band of crazy followers. The scary thing is that they seem to believe that his theories are backed by solid evidence.

Check out the comments section here...

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/08/the-psychology-of-conspiracy-theories/#ixzz0vgBeFmFi
 
arg-fallbackName="Commander Eagle"/>
Okay, for those who haven't seen it yet, here's Jones's review of Watchmen:



Do not watch unless you wish to lose sixty I.Q. points.

Basically, he says "Alan Moore is a Mason/Illuminati/Joo who is sending us a message about what the Illuminati is about to do to us, which involves the Illuminati destroying the world, because the Illuminati thinks that broadcasting their plans give them magic powers. They cast Rorschach (who is obviously a really, really nice guy) as the evil dude and kill him at the end to represent the death of all us totally awesome CTers)."
Nemesiah said:
I don't know.... Alex Jones is Waaaaay out there but is he pourpousley misleading or is it just a case of not taking his medications?

I want to belive he whole heartedly belives what he says, because then he would be a guy worried for his well being and that of others, or do you think he is just an attention hungry whore?

A little from column A, a little from column B. He sincerely believes at least some of what he says, but he's also a pompous, attention-hungry whore who exploits his viewers.
Your Funny Uncle said:
He's not only deluded he has a seemingly large band of crazy followers. The scary thing is that they seem to believe that his theories are backed by solid evidence.

Check out the comments section here...

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/ ... z0vgBeFmFi

That's nothing. Check out his forum.

Oh, and yes, I do spend rather a lot of time discussing Alex Jones. I actually deal more with conspiracy theorists than theists when I'm on forums, and Alex Jones comes up a lot.
 
arg-fallbackName="TheDamnIrish"/>
And to think that all I had to do to make money was scream nonsense into a microphone until my face turns red, while throwing in some promotions for Midas Resources.
 
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TheDamnIrish said:
And to think that all I had to do to make money was scream nonsense into a microphone until my face turns red, while throwing in some promotions for Midas Resources.

Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O' Reilly.... It's an art form refined in the US of A.
 
arg-fallbackName="Laurens"/>
Alex Jones is a twat.

I'm sorry, but that's all I'm willing to contribute to this discussion :p
 
arg-fallbackName="MRaverz"/>
A nanotech vaccine which turns you into an android?

But... he's claiming it's a viral injection to get rid of certain receptors. That's not a vaccine...

And it's not nanotech either, not really.


I mean, it's pretty obvious this story is bull - but it doesn't even make sense.
 
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