About Gay Republicans?

[Hedley]

The "log cabin" is something that I don,´t understand. See wiki-link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans

As far I understand, GOP is based in "deep" Abrahamic-BS religion...
According to the most of Christians denomations gays worth the same as thieves, rapists or killers?

How come can such organization exists?

 

[Prolescum]

As far I understand, GOP is based in "deep" Abrahamic-BS religion...

This completely inaccurate sentence is why you 'don't understand' the LCR.

Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

 

[Welshidiot]

As far I understand, GOP is based in "deep" Abrahamic-BS religion...

This completely inaccurate sentence is why you 'don't understand' the LCR.

Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

There's something up with that link.

 

[ArthurWilborn]

The "log cabin" is something that I don,´t understand. See wiki-link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans

As far I understand, GOP is based in "deep" Abrahamic-BS religion...
According to the most of Christians denomations gays worth the same as thieves, rapists or killers?

How come can such organization exists?

Wow. This is like saying that all communists are atheists and therefore the Russian Orthodox church isn't a real institution. Look more closely at yourself, you are showing your own deep and unreasonable bias by claiming to see it in others.

 

[Prolescum]

This completely inaccurate sentence is why you 'don't understand' the LCR.

Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

There's something up with that link.

Yersh. Not my fault though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

Also Arthur is correct.

 

[Yfelsung]

There are sane Republicans and insane Republicans. The insane ones happen to have control of the party at the moment and they're also really loud, so they're more noticeable.

The insane ones generally worship at a combined alter of Jesus, Ayn Rand and Ronald Reagan (which, really, contradict each other quite a bit).

They believe in stuff like "trickle down economics" (code word for the rich pissing all over the poor and middle class).

What's amazing is how they've managed to combine Jesus and Ayn Rand. Jesus, basically a socialist to the nth degree, and Ayn Rand, a crazy bint who was hugely anti-christian and pro-selfishness.

Christianity and Ayn Rand are literally oil and water yet the combination drives a large majority of current Republican politicians.

 

[kenandkids]

There are sane Republicans and insane Republicans. The insane ones happen to have control of the party at the moment and they're also really loud, so they're more noticeable.

The insane ones generally worship at a combined alter of Jesus, Ayn Rand and Ronald Reagan (which, really, contradict each other quite a bit).

They believe in stuff like "trickle down economics" (code word for the rich pissing all over the poor and middle class).

What's amazing is how they've managed to combine Jesus and Ayn Rand. Jesus, basically a socialist to the nth degree, and Ayn Rand, a crazy bint who was hugely anti-christian and pro-selfishness.

Christianity and Ayn Rand are literally oil and water yet the combination drives a large majority of current Republican politicians.

If they were sane, they wouldn't vote teapublican. LCR are the most insane by far. Not only do they believe that trickle-down, low tax=more job, nonsense but they actively support the powerful group that wants them quiet, marginalised, without rights, and eventually non-existent.

 

[Yfelsung]

The problem is that the sane Republicans still vote along old party lines. I mean, yes, it's their fault for being misinformed, but being a Republican becomes part of one's very nature.

We have the same problem in Canadian politics. People who used to be supporters of the PC party (Progressive Conservative Party) still vote for the CPC (Conservative Party of Canada) because being a conservative is part of their very nature and they don't even realize that the CPC has barely anything in common with the old PC party of the 70s and 80s.

Similarly, a lot of old school Republicans still see the party as it's pre-Reagan version and are blind to the fact that pre-Reagan Republicans have more in common with current Democrats than they do with current Republicans (due to both parties shifting very far right).

Being Conservative becomes part of who they are where as those of us on the left are more broad, and unfortunately divided. In Canada we have 3 left wing parties and 1 right wing. So despite that only about 1/5 Canadians supports the right wing party, they've held government for 5 or 6 years because of vote splitting on the left.

In the US the problem is more voter apathy on the left than vote splitting.

 

[aeritano]

I have issues with gay republicans..

I have an issue wit the fact they vote party line and for candidates that are opposed to their own interests.

The way i see it, A gay republican is more concerned about big business, and keeping a few hundred dollars in his pocket in tax breaks that that of his own human rights.

sure vote for the republican, but remember.. that republicans in America are usually (almost always) anti-gay and more then willing to strip your rights at the drop of the hat.

sure, they may get a nice tax return, but at the cost of their right to marry, right to equal employment, equal housing and equal taxation.

Gay republicans are willing to deal with fewer rights for the sake of keeping money in their pockets... shameful

and dont think im saying that all gays should be democrats.. because they are just as bad from the other end. Im a registered independent, and I vote for the candidate who fits my interest.. you know.. equal rights and such.

I have ZERO respect for Log cabin republicans, and i consider them as acting counter to gay rights... this of course is my own opinion

 

[kenandkids]

I have issues with gay republicans..

I have an issue wit the fact they vote party line and for candidates that are opposed to their own interests.

The way i see it, A gay republican is more concerned about big business, and keeping a few hundred dollars in his pocket in tax breaks that that of his own human rights.

sure vote for the republican, but remember.. that republicans in America are usually (almost always) anti-gay and more then willing to strip your rights at the drop of the hat.

sure, they may get a nice tax return, but at the cost of their right to marry, right to equal employment, equal housing and equal taxation.

Gay republicans are willing to deal with fewer rights for the sake of keeping money in their pockets... shameful

and dont think im saying that all gays should be democrats.. because they are just as bad from the other end. Im a registered independent, and I vote for the candidate who fits my interest.. you know.. equal rights and such.

I have ZERO respect for Log cabin republicans, and i consider them as acting counter to gay rights... this of course is my own opinion

+1 and exactly my thoughts

 

[Hedley]

I have issues with gay republicans..

I have an issue wit the fact they vote party line and for candidates that are opposed to their own interests.

The way i see it, A gay republican is more concerned about big business, and keeping a few hundred dollars in his pocket in tax breaks that that of his own human rights.

sure vote for the republican, but remember.. that republicans in America are usually (almost always) anti-gay and more then willing to strip your rights at the drop of the hat.

sure, they may get a nice tax return, but at the cost of their right to marry, right to equal employment, equal housing and equal taxation.

Gay republicans are willing to deal with fewer rights for the sake of keeping money in their pockets... shameful

and dont think im saying that all gays should be democrats.. because they are just as bad from the other end. Im a registered independent, and I vote for the candidate who fits my interest.. you know.. equal rights and such.

I have ZERO respect for Log cabin republicans, and i consider them as acting counter to gay rights... this of course is my own opinion

Wise quoute from a gay man!... indeed "sane" president and representative Republicans are so scant that in my mind Republicans=anti-gay!

 

[aeritano]

/me uses a defibrillator to revive this thread

jsut to show how much of a traitor the GOProud (gay republicans) are.. here is a nice story

how the republican gays have betrayed their own

 

[ArthurWilborn]

/me uses a defibrillator to revive this thread

jsut to show how much of a traitor the GOProud (gay republicans) are.. here is a nice story

how the republican gays have betrayed their own

So, what, you support everything that every democrat ever says? :roll: Politics make strange bedfellows. Ahem.

 

[kenandkids]

So, what, you support everything that every democrat ever says? :roll: Politics make strange bedfellows. Ahem.

I take it you didn't read the article.

I have no respect for these types of people. To actually vote for politicians that will do their best to make you and your private life illegal is asinine.

 

[aeritano]

/me uses a defibrillator to revive this thread

jsut to show how much of a traitor the GOProud (gay republicans) are.. here is a nice story

how the republican gays have betrayed their own

So, what, you support everything that every democrat ever says? :roll: Politics make strange bedfellows. Ahem.

KenandKids is right, you must not have read the article...

GoProud supporting Bachmann is equivalent to saying "Jews for Hitler"

im also not saying that all gays should vote democrat. but for people who dont wantto brand them with numbers under a registration act and stick us into "re-orientation camps".. you know.. good back to the good old days of Exodus international, where they would attach electrodes to a gay teens junk and "shock the gay away"

it is clear ArthurWilborn that you are now trolling the thread..

I hope one day, someone removes your rights, and lets see how you feel

 

[ArthurWilborn]

So, what, you support everything that every democrat ever says? :roll: Politics make strange bedfellows. Ahem.

I take it you didn't read the article.

I have no respect for these types of people. To actually vote for politicians that will do their best to make you and your private life illegal is asinine.

I stopped taking it seriously around the Nazi comparison.

I seem to recall there was a lot of heat over Obama's spiritual advisor making some heavy-handed statements about race. Guilt by association doesn't work for either side of the aisle. And heck, if two people started hassling me in a bathroom I'd probably run too. The article tries to have it both ways; not meeting with people is bad, but meeting with people is bad too. Please, I'm surprised I can even read this without the slant sliding it off my screen.

Once again you show your arrogance by believing you know more about what's best for people then they themselves do. People have differing priorities, you know.

im also not saying that all gays should vote democrat. but for people who dont wantto brand them with numbers under a registration act and stick us into "re-orientation camps"

And Obama is a foreigner who's drastically raising the debt in order to sell out America to foreign countries. :roll: Please. I don't buy this crap from my side, you shouldn't take it from yours.

 

[kenandkids]

Some crap unrelated to topic

Try reading the article and notice that it states specific examples of the kind of discrimination and actions supported by these people. Wanting to physically and emotionally alter other people by force is exactly what many of them want. This is nothing like calling Obama a foreigner.

 

[ArthurWilborn]

Some crap unrelated to topic

Try reading the article and notice that it states specific examples of the kind of discrimination and actions supported by these people. Wanting to physically and emotionally alter other people by force is exactly what many of them want. This is nothing like calling Obama a foreigner.

Beyond innuendo and guilt by association, I'm not seeing a lot here. Gay Republicans support Republican policies - wow, that's a shock. Bachmann supports conversion therapy - 30 seconds of research says she supports it on an outpatient, by request basis. (Can you show contravening evidence? I'm willing to listen to it.)

Come on, stretch your imagination a tiny bit. Can't you think of even one reason why an interest group would want to meet with a politician, even though that politician might stand against everything they stand for?

 

[Aught3]

I read the blog post but it was just an hysterical rant. Though I do find it strange that gay people would support an anti-gay political party, but then I consider civil rights a more important issue than fiscal policy.

 

[Andiferous]

There are sane Republicans and insane Republicans. The insane ones happen to have control of the party at the moment and they're also really loud, so they're more noticeable.

The insane ones generally worship at a combined alter of Jesus, Ayn Rand and Ronald Reagan (which, really, contradict each other quite a bit).

They believe in stuff like "trickle down economics" (code word for the rich pissing all over the poor and middle class).

What's amazing is how they've managed to combine Jesus and Ayn Rand. Jesus, basically a socialist to the nth degree, and Ayn Rand, a crazy bint who was hugely anti-christian and pro-selfishness.

Christianity and Ayn Rand are literally oil and water yet the combination drives a large majority of current Republican politicians.

I hate to confuse and not confuse Canadian Politics with this whole thing; but while I think you're right on an elemental and contraversial level, I also think there is a chance you are not-quite-right.

We all seem to go down to European Economics and it's hard to separate ourseves and ethicities from American and European economics; but even beyond border disputes and confusion I'd find it difficult to blame any one part of the word for any of this. How 'bout we stop blaming?