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A message from Warranted Faith

Zylstra

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arg-fallbackName="Zylstra"/>
Actually... I mislead you.... faith is totally unwarranted wishful thinking grounded in ignorance and weakness of mind. That is the reason the Evidence for God thread has seen no evidence, the Questions thread has seen no replies, most of the theists have disappeared on this board, and the admin and mods continue to delete or ignore just about very question posted

 
arg-fallbackName="borrofburi"/>
Zylstra said:
You atheists need to understand this. No evidence can ever be provided because evidence is contrary to faith. True faith not only does not require evidence,but rejects evidence as having any value whatsoever. Unless, of course, the bible is being cited as evidence, in which case the contradiction and self-refutation must be ignored as god hates logic, common sense, and intelligence
I'm confused, is that you talking to us or one of the warranted-faith people talking to us?
 
arg-fallbackName="Squawk"/>
All I know is that most of my points get ignored, the ones that do get addressed get intentionally or unintentionally misinterpreted. Faith blinkers I think.
 
arg-fallbackName="JacobEvans"/>
It would appear God in fact loves logic. All events that have ever occurred (to my knowledge) have entirely logical causes.
 
arg-fallbackName="ImprobableJoe"/>
Squawk said:
All I know is that most of my points get ignored, the ones that do get addressed get intentionally or unintentionally misinterpreted. Faith blinkers I think.
Why not call it for what it is: lying. Filthy fucking liars, every one of those admin-types on that site.
 
arg-fallbackName="Zylstra"/>
JacobEvans said:
It would appear God in fact loves logic. All events that have ever occurred (to my knowledge) have entirely logical causes.

is quantum mechanics logical? It's certainly counter-intuitive
 
arg-fallbackName="Opticon"/>
Logic isn't necessarily intuitive, just as the universe that logic is meant to describe isn't necessarily intuitive either. Our experience on earth as highly intelligent apes doesn't instantaneously grant us access to all the secrets of the universe nor does it sweep aside thousands of years of the "common sense" survival tactics our brains are accustomed to using.
 
arg-fallbackName="mandangalo18"/>
Squawk said:
All I know is that most of my points get ignored, the ones that do get addressed get intentionally or unintentionally misinterpreted. Faith blinkers I think.

Squawk I'm pretty sure they just don't have anything to fire back at you and they can't bring themselves to admit that they're completely dogmatic on the subject. They have learned it's better to stay mum than admit "The Bible says so, so I believe it!" I'd wager.

I wouldn't want to have to debate you on the subject.
 
arg-fallbackName="atheismforthewin"/>
So they're saying God can build a universe of spectacular sense, logic, and scientific worth. 250,000 species of beetles, billions of naturally balanced nuclear reactors floating through the midst of space, physical consistencies of the most advanced, mathematical nature, and more. But when it comes to what we think of him and his anthropic value, God revokes all sense of logic and reliance upon demonstrable fact simply so we can fear him?
 
arg-fallbackName="Squawk"/>
mandangalo18 said:
"All I know is that most of my points get ignored, the ones that do get addressed get intentionally or unintentionally misinterpreted. Faith blinkers I think."

Squawk I'm pretty sure they just don't have anything to fire back at you and they can't bring themselves to admit that they're completely dogmatic on the subject. They have learned it's better to stay mum than admit "The Bible says so, so I believe it!" I'd wager.

I wouldn't want to have to debate you on the subject.

I wouldn't want to debate anyone with a modicum of sense on the evidence for common descent, should I be arguing for the other side. The only requirement is to realise that their position is entirely faith based and that "I don't know" is an intellectually valid position and you cannot lose.

Beyond that all you do is present evidence and dismiss assertions, something which I note you are more than capable of.
 
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