he_who_is_nobody
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leroy said:Given that I didn’t received a direct and clear answer I will simply repeat it.
leroy said:What exactly do you what me to prove?
1 That I have limited time,
2 That I can only write a limited amount of digits (given my limited time)
3 given 1 and 2 I don’t have infinite options
Which one of these 3 points do you find so controversial?
How much more direct and clear do you want me to get? I gave you the equation you needed to use, after all. Given that you are not an authority, either do the math and demonstrate that you are correct or provide a citation that allows you to limit the equation in some way. Short of that, you are just running.
leroy said:he_who_is_nobody said:X/(real numbers)+(one's time)+(one's memory)+(y)+(z)+..
Aja, and what am I suppose to do with that equation? Why are you adding all those factors? I honestly don’t understand why did you conclude that that equation would be accurate
That is the equation one would use to calculate the odds. Thank you for once again demonstrating that you do not know the first thing about something you are pontificating about.
leroy said:.....but…..it is irrelevant, my only burden is to show that there is at least 1 factor that would limit my options, and I already did that. (limited time for example)
As you can see from the above, your time would be added to the real numbers. You already admitted that the real numbers were infinite, thus what is infinity plus X? I am sure you can even answer that. Beyond that, you also already admitted that one divided by infinity is zero. Thus, why are you still arguing?
leroy said:he_who_is_nobody said:n the real world? What other world is there? However, yes. How do I know that?hackenslash wrote:
Because the reals are infinite, and any number divided by infinity is zero, hance the probability of choosing 7, or indeed any other number, is exactly zero, yet the probability of choosing some number is exactly one.
I should add,just in case you don't read the post, thatr even events with a zero probability happen all the time, and this is trivial to demonstrate.
hackenslash wrote:
Pick any number on the real number line. Let's say, for example, that you choose the number 7. The probability of choosing that number at random is zero. How? Because the reals are infinite, and any number divided by infinity is zero, hance the probability of choosing 7, or indeed any other number, is exactly zero, yet the probability of choosing some number is exactly one.
I personally find it perplexing that you (and hack) truly and honestly believe that the probability of me selecting (or typing) “7” is literally zero despite the fact that I just typed this number.
How is that perplexing? We both admit that things with a zero probability happen all the time. You agree with us, you just refuse to admit to your mistake.
leroy said:This study (https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/shawnhar/2009/12/17/the-psychology-of-randomness/) shows that humans are more likely to select a prime and odd number (like 7) rather than a nice round number (like 10) so how should we interpret this data? Is the probability of selecting "10" less than zero? honestly haven’t you detected any logical incoherence?
Irrelevant to this discussion. Again, we are talking about the odds. Beyond that, remember when you picked 7312004874512? What were the odds that you would pick that number? Feel free to calculate them with the equation I have given you or provide your own. Anything short of that will be seen as running.
leroy said:So in conclusion
Not all numbers have the same probability of being selected.
What a goal post shift. Again, we are talking about the odds of picking any random number.
leroy said:Some numbers are impossible to select (or type)...... (for example numbers with too many digits).
Just calculate the odds of you picking 7312004874512. Go ahead, or just keep running. You are so good at running.