A list of the bigger players in the debate?

[Gnug215]

Hi all!

I'm working on something, and I need to get names of the bigger players in this whole creationism/intelligent design vs evolution debate - both on YT and otherwise out there in the world. Past AND present.

These are the names (people and institutions) that I have so far:


THE BAD:
AIG - Answers in Genesis -
amazingbeliever, the
Answers in Creation
AnswersofNWO
AtheistAntidote Ben Stein
BigJerre (NightVisionPhantom)
Casey Luskin
C.S. Lewis
CSEministry
Creationguys, the
Creation Ministries International
Creation Science Institute
David Berlinksi
Dinosaur Adventurland
Discovery Institute
DrOakley1689
Duane Gish
Eric Hovind
Fool4ALifeTime
FrankReturns / FranksVoice
Geerup
George Bush
Gorilla199
Harun Yahyah (Adnan Oktar)
Henry Morris
IllustriaMedia
InternetPastorTV
Janet Folger
Jerry Falwell
JezuzFreek777
John Pendleton
Johnathan Wells
Ken Hamm
Kirk Cameron
Lee Strobel
LordShadrach
Mack Quigley
Michael Behe
mikecampochiaro
NephilimFree
Pat Robertson
Philip E. Johnson
Philos71 (creationist?)
Ray Comfort
Spike Psarris
Stephen C. Meyer
StonedCommander
thirdeaglebooks
TogetherforPeace
Truth Group, the
VFX - VenomFangX - Shawn
Way Of The Master, The
WeFalDwnButGetBackUp
William A. Dembski
William Paley
YokedtoJesus - YokeUp
zkueker88 (creationist?)

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THE GOOD:
Agnosticman77
AmazingAtheist, The
AndromedasWake
antybu86
AronRa
AtheistExperience
AZSuperman
Bill Maher
Carl Sagan
CDK007
Charles Darwin
Christopher Hitchens
C0nC0rdance
Conradleviston
Corthew
Coughlan666
Daniel Dennet
Danmill23
Dannypantsgm
DesertPhile
Djarm67
DonExodus2
DPRJones
EddieGoombah
Edward (Eddie) Current
Eugenie Scott
ExtantDodo
FreeThinker
FSAteh1st
George Coyne
Gogreen18
JaguarJ0nes
James Randi (Foundation)
JRChadwick
Judge (John E.) Jones (III)
Ken Miller
KingHeathen
Matt Dillahunty
Michael Shermer
namnack
NeoPrometheus73
NetWriter
Noelplum99
NonStampCollector
Ogjimkenobi
ozmoroid
PatCondell
Penn & Teller
Pharyngula - (PZ Meyer)
Philhellenes
Potholer54
ProfMTH
PZ Meyer
QualiaSoup
RabidApe
RationaResponseSquad
Richard Dawkins
rozeboosje
Sam Harris
SchrodingersFinch
Shanedk
stefzula
SuperFlyNB
TalkOrigins
TheBadAstronomer
Theologikos
TheoreticalBullshit
Theowarner
ThetaOmega
Thunderf00t
tooltime9901
UNFFwildcard
ZOMGitsCriss


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That's about it so far. I am pretty sure I'm missing a few here. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

 

[JRBendixen]

Nice work. Keep it up

 

[Sando]

It takes a lot to make creationists look bad in comparision, but Gorilla199 does that. He may be openly christian, but he's so far out on the bat shit crazy scale that I wouldn't group him together with anyone at all.

By the way, you should add Gisburne2000 and ToddAllenGates to the "good guys".

 

[GoodKat]

I think I would make a third group called "the misguided" for Theamazingatheist and others.

 

[Homunclus]

I think I would make a third group called "the misguided" for Theamazingatheist and others.

The amazing atheist? Really? Why do you say that?

 

[GoodKat]

The amazing atheist? Really? Why do you say that?

I don't think I've ever seen him present evidence or form a logical argument, he just seems to hurl insults.

 

[JacobEvans]

I don't think I've ever seen him present evidence or form a logical argument, he just seems to hurl insults.

Agreed.

 

[Canto]

so TJ is the good guy version of the bad guys?

Meh, he's not in the business of education honestly, he says it himself, he's a comdey channel.

 

[GoodKat]

Meh, he's not in the business of education honestly, he says it himself, he's a comdey channel.

Then can he really be considered part of the debate?

 

[Gnug215]

I do consider TAA to be part of the debate, as he has spent some time debunking various creationist/theist vids, and otherwise mingled in the debate.

Furthermore, he's a well-known figure in the community, and that's really what I'm looking for.

I am actually also looking for famous "events" in the community, like VFX apologizing to Thunderf00t, coughlan and BigJerre "bonding", Ray Comfort's Banana Debacle, stuff like that.

 

[Deleted member 499]

Not sure if he's significant enough to warrent a place on the list but you may want to add Walt Brown to the bad section or possibly "the centre for scientific creation" (his site). I don't know if you've ever heard creationists go on about the "hydroplate 'theory'" but this is the guy responsible for it. Surprisingly though I have yet to find a video that addresses his claims.

As an amusing aside he appears to even be disliked by many of his fellow creationists.

 

[FSAthe1st]

Not to be anal or anything, but you should probably correct the spelling of my YT username at some point. Not a big deal on these forums as we're all smart enough to get it, but if you post on YT, the fundies will be scratching their heads.

Some other names to add: Janet Folger and Duane Gish for the bad guys.

Can't think of any more right now. Your list is fairly extensive already.

Edit: The Institute for Creation Research, if you're looking for the organisation they both head up, although they operate outside of these institutions sometimes as well (e.g. Janet Folger is also president of the Faith2Action group, as ExtantDodo pointed out, a group opposed to expanding hate crime legislation in the US).

 

[Gnug215]

Not to be anal or anything, but you should probably correct the spelling of my YT username at some point. Not a big deal on these forums as we're all smart enough to get it, but if you post on YT, the fundies will be scratching their heads.

Some other names to add: Janet Folger and Duane Gish for the bad guys.

Can't think of any more right now. Your list is fairly extensive already.

Edit: The Institute for Creation Research, if you're looking for the organisation they both head up, although they operate outside of these institutions sometimes as well (e.g. Janet Folger is also president of the Faith2Action group, as ExtantDodo pointed out, a group opposed to expanding hate crime legislation in the US).

Done, and thanks.

Sorry for the wrong name, btw. I should have known better, since I'm subbed to you, hehe.

 

[enterman]

I have a question on the list. When was "Fool4alifetime" considered big in anything? I just didn't realize anyone considered him a "big player" in any debate lol.

 

[kouchpotato]

You should probably add "EVIDENCE" under "Good". Something the creationists lack.

 

[Gnug215]

I have a question on the list. When was "Fool4alifetime" considered big in anything? I just didn't realize anyone considered him a "big player" in any debate lol.

Well... about as much as Britney Spears is considered a big player in music.

 

[Gnug215]

You should probably add "EVIDENCE" under "Good". Something the creationists lack.

Well, you know what I mean by it.