)O( Hytegia )O(
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What more do I need to say?
It was a terrible thing - America cried that day, and I along with it.
It was a terrible thing - America cried that day, and I along with it.
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10 Years - 11 SEP 2011
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)O( Hytegia )O(
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Great Scott, I must have overshot it Marty!Prolescum said:
:lol:
I'm aware of the date, Prole. It's this weekend though.
australopithecus
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I remember distinctly having a disscussion about peanut butter that afternoon after watching the news unfold.
ImprobableJoe
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I've been done giving a shit since 9/12/01, when the local mall IN MOTHERFUCKING MAYBERRY was closed for security concerns, and my comic books shipped late. Fuck 9/11, and all the idiots not directly affected that have forced that non-event to affect my life in any way.
)O( Hytegia )O(
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But JOOOOOEImprobableJoe said:
It's FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY!
Wait, you mean that a terror attack is only successful if it scares the population the event targeted to strain security, disrupt travel/trade/etc., and live in a state of fear? Huh?
:/
I hate it too. It was a terrible thing - but we shouldn't be behaving so adversely to it.
DepricatedZero
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That seems strangely out of character for you.ImprobableJoe said:
Many of the people I work with were directly involved, some were inside the towers when the planes hit. I had family, a cousin, who died when the towers collapsed. The day was overblown by the media and politics, for sure, but it's no less tragic to those involved. I don't cry every time I think of the loss of my cousin, but we were close, and there will always be a spot of me that mourns her not being around.
I'll be drinking to her memory.
I distinctly remember reading an interesting study about the things students reported to have done at the time the news hit and the things they reported to have done at the time, when asked only a year later. The percentage of students who gave the same reports both times was very small.australopithecus said:
australopithecus
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Case said:
Cool story. I've always liked being in the minority, makes me feel special.
ImprobableJoe
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DepricatedZero said:
See, that's what I'm talking about. You and your family and your co-workers were directly affected, and you have every right to your feelings. I don't think I, or anyone else, should get to piggyback on your loss or your feelings.
Is it out of character because I'm being respectful towards the people who had an actual loss? Because otherwise, the general level of contempt for the sheeple seems kind of normal for me.
perhaps a little buzz-kill but... GET OVER IT YOU BUNCH OF EMO'S !!!!
seriously, the world doesn't revolve only about americans.
other events that happened on 11 september
9, The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest ends.
506, The bishops of Visigothic Gaul meet in the Council of Agde.
1185, Isaac II Angelus kills Stephanus Hagiochristophorites and then appeals to the people, resulting in the revolt that deposes Andronicus I Comnenus and places Isaac on the throne of the Byzantine Empire.
1226, The Roman Catholic practice of public adoration of the Blessed Sacrament outside of Mass spreads from monasteries to parishes.
1297, Battle of Stirling Bridge: Scots jointly-led by William Wallace and Andrew Moray defeat the English.
1390, Lithuanian Civil War (1389-1392): the Teutonic Knights begin a five-week siege of Vilnius.
1541, Santiago, Chile, is destroyed by indigenous warriors, led by Michimalonko.
1609, Expulsion order announced against the Moriscos of Valencia; beginning of the expulsion of all Spain's Moriscos.
1609, Henry Hudson discovers Manhattan Island and the indigenous people living there.
1649, Siege of Drogheda ends: Oliver Cromwell's English Parliamentarian troops take the town and execute its garrison.
1697, Battle of Zenta.
1708, Charles XII of Sweden stops his march to conquer Moscow outside Smolensk, marking the turning point in the Great Northern War. The army is defeated nine months later in the Battle of Poltava, and the Swedish empire ceases to be a major power.
1709, Battle of Malplaquet: Great Britain, Netherlands and Austria fight against France.
1714, Siege of Barcelona: Barcelona, capital city of Catalonia, surrenders to Spanish and French Bourbon armies in the War of the Spanish Succession.
1758, Battle of Saint Cast: France repels British invasion during the Seven Years' War.
1775, Benedict Arnold's expedition to Quebec leaves Cambridge, Massachusetts.
1776, British-American peace conference on Staten Island fails to stop nascent American Revolutionary War.
1777, American Revolution: Battle of Brandywine, The British celebrate a major victory in Chester County, Pennsylvania.
1786, The Beginning of the Annapolis Convention.
1789, Alexander Hamilton is appointed the first United States Secretary of the Treasury.
1792, The Hope Diamond is stolen along with other French crown jewels when six men break into the house used to store them.
1802, France annexes the Kingdom of Piedmont.
1813, War of 1812: British troops arrive in Mount Vernon and prepare to march to and invade Washington D.C..
1814, War of 1812: The climax of the Battle of Plattsburgh, a major United States victory in the war.
1829, Surrender of the expedition led by Isidro Barradas at Tampico, sent by the Spanish crown in order to retake Mexico, This was the final consummation of Mexican independence.
1847, Stephen Foster's well-known song, Oh! Susanna, is first performed at a saloon in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
1857, The Mountain Meadows Massacre: Mormon settlers and Paiutes massacre 120 pioneers at Mountain Meadows, Utah.
1897, After months of pursuit, generals of Menelik II of Ethiopia capture Gaki Sherocho, the last king of Kaffa, bringing an end to that ancient kingdom.
1903, The first race at The Milwaukee Mile in West Allis, Wisconsin is held. It is the oldest major speedway in the world.
1914, Australia invades New Britain, defeating a German contingent at the Battle of Bita Paka.
1916, The Quebec Bridge's central span collapses, killing 11 men. The bridge initially collapsed in toto on August 29, 1907.
1919, U.S. Marines invade Honduras.
1921, Nahalal, the first moshav in Palestine, is settled as part of a Zionist plan to colonize Palestine and creating a Jewish state, later to be Israel.
1922, The British Mandate of Palestine begins.
1922, The Treaty of Kars is ratified in Yerevan, Armenia.
1922, One of the Herald Sun of Melbourne, Australia's predecessor papers The Sun News-Pictorial is founded.
1931, Salvatore Maranzano is murdered by Charles Luciano's hitmen.
1932, Franciszek Żwirko and Stanisław Wigura, Polish Challenge 1932 winners, are killed when their RWD 6 airplane crashes during a storm.
1940, George Stibitz performs the first remote operation of a computer.
1941, Ground is broken for the construction of The Pentagon.
1941, Charles Lindbergh's Des Moines Speech accusing the British, Jews and the Roosevelt administration of pressing for war with Germany.
1943, World War II: German troops occupy Corsica and Kosovo-Metohija.
1943, World War II: Start of the liquidation of the Ghettos in Minsk and Lida by the Nazis.
1944, World War II: The first Allied troops of the U.S. Army cross the western border of Germany.
1944, World War II: RAF bombing raid on Darmstadt and the following firestorm kill 11,500.
1945, World War II: Australian 9th Division forces liberate the Japanese-run Batu Lintang camp, a POW and civilian internment camp on the island of Borneo.
1954, Hurricane Edna hits New England as a Category 3 hurricane, causing significant damage and 29 deaths.
1961, Foundation of the World Wildlife Fund.
1961, Hurricane Carla strikes the Texas coast as a Category 4 hurricane, the second strongest storm ever to hit the state.
1968, Air France Flight 1611 crashes off Nice, France, killing 89 passengers and 6 crew.
1970, The Dawson's Field hijackers release 88 of their hostages. The remaining hostages, mostly Jews and Israeli citizens, are held until September 25.
1971, The Egyptian Constitution becomes official.
1972, The San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit system has its opening day of passenger service.
1973, A coup in Chile headed by General Augusto Pinochet topples the democratically elected president Salvador Allende. Pinochet remains in power for almost 17 years.
1974, Eastern Air Lines Flight 212 crashes in Charlotte, North Carolina, killing 69 passengers and two crew.
1978, U.S. President Jimmy Carter, President Anwar Sadat of Egypt, and Prime Minister Menachem Begin of Israel meet at Camp David and agree on the Camp David Accords a framework for peace between Israel and Egypt and a comprehensive peace in the Middle East.
1980, Voters approve the present Constitution of Chile.
1982, The international forces that were guaranteeing the safety of Palestinian refugees following Israel's 1982 Invasion of Lebanon leave Beirut. Five days later, several thousand refugees are massacred in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.
1985, Pete Rose breaks Ty Cobb's baseball record for most career hits with his 4,192nd hit
1988, The St Jean Bosco massacre takes place in Port-au-Prince, Haiti.
1989, Hungary announces that the East German refugees who had been housed in temporary camps, were free to leave for West Germany.
1992, Hurricane Iniki, one of the most damaging hurricanes in United States history, devastates the Hawaiian islands of Kauai and Oahu.
1997, NASA's Mars Global Surveyor reaches Mars.
1997, After a nationwide referendum, Scotland votes to establish a devolved parliament, within the United Kingdom.
1997, 14 Estonian soldiers die in the Kurkse tragedy, drowning in the Baltic Sea
1998, Opening ceremony for the 1998 Commonwealth Games in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Malaysia is the first Asian country to host the games.
2001, The September 11 attacks take place in the United States. Airplane hijackings result in the collapse of the World Trade Center in New York City, damage to The Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, and the crashing of a passenger airliner near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
2004, All passengers are killed when a helicopter crashes in the Aegean Sea. Passengers include Patriarch Peter VII of Alexandria and 16 others (including journalists and bishops of the Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria).
2007, Russia tests the largest conventional weapon ever, the Father of all bombs.
seriously, the world doesn't revolve only about americans.
other events that happened on 11 september
9, The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest ends.
506, The bishops of Visigothic Gaul meet in the Council of Agde.
1185, Isaac II Angelus kills Stephanus Hagiochristophorites and then appeals to the people, resulting in the revolt that deposes Andronicus I Comnenus and places Isaac on the throne of the Byzantine Empire.
1226, The Roman Catholic practice of public adoration of the Blessed Sacrament outside of Mass spreads from monasteries to parishes.
1297, Battle of Stirling Bridge: Scots jointly-led by William Wallace and Andrew Moray defeat the English.
1390, Lithuanian Civil War (1389-1392): the Teutonic Knights begin a five-week siege of Vilnius.
1541, Santiago, Chile, is destroyed by indigenous warriors, led by Michimalonko.
1609, Expulsion order announced against the Moriscos of Valencia; beginning of the expulsion of all Spain's Moriscos.
1609, Henry Hudson discovers Manhattan Island and the indigenous people living there.
1649, Siege of Drogheda ends: Oliver Cromwell's English Parliamentarian troops take the town and execute its garrison.
1697, Battle of Zenta.
1708, Charles XII of Sweden stops his march to conquer Moscow outside Smolensk, marking the turning point in the Great Northern War. The army is defeated nine months later in the Battle of Poltava, and the Swedish empire ceases to be a major power.
1709, Battle of Malplaquet: Great Britain, Netherlands and Austria fight against France.
1714, Siege of Barcelona: Barcelona, capital city of Catalonia, surrenders to Spanish and French Bourbon armies in the War of the Spanish Succession.
1758, Battle of Saint Cast: France repels British invasion during the Seven Years' War.
1775, Benedict Arnold's expedition to Quebec leaves Cambridge, Massachusetts.
1776, British-American peace conference on Staten Island fails to stop nascent American Revolutionary War.
1777, American Revolution: Battle of Brandywine, The British celebrate a major victory in Chester County, Pennsylvania.
1786, The Beginning of the Annapolis Convention.
1789, Alexander Hamilton is appointed the first United States Secretary of the Treasury.
1792, The Hope Diamond is stolen along with other French crown jewels when six men break into the house used to store them.
1802, France annexes the Kingdom of Piedmont.
1813, War of 1812: British troops arrive in Mount Vernon and prepare to march to and invade Washington D.C..
1814, War of 1812: The climax of the Battle of Plattsburgh, a major United States victory in the war.
1829, Surrender of the expedition led by Isidro Barradas at Tampico, sent by the Spanish crown in order to retake Mexico, This was the final consummation of Mexican independence.
1847, Stephen Foster's well-known song, Oh! Susanna, is first performed at a saloon in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
1857, The Mountain Meadows Massacre: Mormon settlers and Paiutes massacre 120 pioneers at Mountain Meadows, Utah.
1897, After months of pursuit, generals of Menelik II of Ethiopia capture Gaki Sherocho, the last king of Kaffa, bringing an end to that ancient kingdom.
1903, The first race at The Milwaukee Mile in West Allis, Wisconsin is held. It is the oldest major speedway in the world.
1914, Australia invades New Britain, defeating a German contingent at the Battle of Bita Paka.
1916, The Quebec Bridge's central span collapses, killing 11 men. The bridge initially collapsed in toto on August 29, 1907.
1919, U.S. Marines invade Honduras.
1921, Nahalal, the first moshav in Palestine, is settled as part of a Zionist plan to colonize Palestine and creating a Jewish state, later to be Israel.
1922, The British Mandate of Palestine begins.
1922, The Treaty of Kars is ratified in Yerevan, Armenia.
1922, One of the Herald Sun of Melbourne, Australia's predecessor papers The Sun News-Pictorial is founded.
1931, Salvatore Maranzano is murdered by Charles Luciano's hitmen.
1932, Franciszek Żwirko and Stanisław Wigura, Polish Challenge 1932 winners, are killed when their RWD 6 airplane crashes during a storm.
1940, George Stibitz performs the first remote operation of a computer.
1941, Ground is broken for the construction of The Pentagon.
1941, Charles Lindbergh's Des Moines Speech accusing the British, Jews and the Roosevelt administration of pressing for war with Germany.
1943, World War II: German troops occupy Corsica and Kosovo-Metohija.
1943, World War II: Start of the liquidation of the Ghettos in Minsk and Lida by the Nazis.
1944, World War II: The first Allied troops of the U.S. Army cross the western border of Germany.
1944, World War II: RAF bombing raid on Darmstadt and the following firestorm kill 11,500.
1945, World War II: Australian 9th Division forces liberate the Japanese-run Batu Lintang camp, a POW and civilian internment camp on the island of Borneo.
1954, Hurricane Edna hits New England as a Category 3 hurricane, causing significant damage and 29 deaths.
1961, Foundation of the World Wildlife Fund.
1961, Hurricane Carla strikes the Texas coast as a Category 4 hurricane, the second strongest storm ever to hit the state.
1968, Air France Flight 1611 crashes off Nice, France, killing 89 passengers and 6 crew.
1970, The Dawson's Field hijackers release 88 of their hostages. The remaining hostages, mostly Jews and Israeli citizens, are held until September 25.
1971, The Egyptian Constitution becomes official.
1972, The San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit system has its opening day of passenger service.
1973, A coup in Chile headed by General Augusto Pinochet topples the democratically elected president Salvador Allende. Pinochet remains in power for almost 17 years.
1974, Eastern Air Lines Flight 212 crashes in Charlotte, North Carolina, killing 69 passengers and two crew.
1978, U.S. President Jimmy Carter, President Anwar Sadat of Egypt, and Prime Minister Menachem Begin of Israel meet at Camp David and agree on the Camp David Accords a framework for peace between Israel and Egypt and a comprehensive peace in the Middle East.
1980, Voters approve the present Constitution of Chile.
1982, The international forces that were guaranteeing the safety of Palestinian refugees following Israel's 1982 Invasion of Lebanon leave Beirut. Five days later, several thousand refugees are massacred in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.
1985, Pete Rose breaks Ty Cobb's baseball record for most career hits with his 4,192nd hit
1988, The St Jean Bosco massacre takes place in Port-au-Prince, Haiti.
1989, Hungary announces that the East German refugees who had been housed in temporary camps, were free to leave for West Germany.
1992, Hurricane Iniki, one of the most damaging hurricanes in United States history, devastates the Hawaiian islands of Kauai and Oahu.
1997, NASA's Mars Global Surveyor reaches Mars.
1997, After a nationwide referendum, Scotland votes to establish a devolved parliament, within the United Kingdom.
1997, 14 Estonian soldiers die in the Kurkse tragedy, drowning in the Baltic Sea
1998, Opening ceremony for the 1998 Commonwealth Games in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Malaysia is the first Asian country to host the games.
2001, The September 11 attacks take place in the United States. Airplane hijackings result in the collapse of the World Trade Center in New York City, damage to The Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, and the crashing of a passenger airliner near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
2004, All passengers are killed when a helicopter crashes in the Aegean Sea. Passengers include Patriarch Peter VII of Alexandria and 16 others (including journalists and bishops of the Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria).
2007, Russia tests the largest conventional weapon ever, the Father of all bombs.
DepricatedZero
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I may have misunderstood your post then, as I read it it seemed you were telling people like me to fuck off because we lost family, because the cause of that loss had stifled delivery of your comic book. That would seem out of character for you, imo.ImprobableJoe said:DepricatedZero said:
See, that's what I'm talking about. You and your family and your co-workers were directly affected, and you have every right to your feelings. I don't think I, or anyone else, should get to piggyback on your loss or your feelings.
Is it out of character because I'm being respectful towards the people who had an actual loss? Because otherwise, the general level of contempt for the sheeple seems kind of normal for me.
The general contempt towards fuckwittery isn't, no - lol - and I see what you mean now. In general I'm inclined to agree - what did Joe Texan lose that has him all up in arms? Heh, hold on, what did that fucking book burner lose that was such a personal loss to him? Fuck those guys.
ImprobableJoe
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DepricatedZero said:
Yeah, that was what I meant. That's why I said specifically people not directly affected. I was 550 miles away, in a little podunk town in North Carolina, and they closed the mall for "security reasons"... seriously? Who is the fuck-up terrorist who gets assigned that target?
"Ahmed, you take out the World Trade Center. Mohhamad, you take a team and take out the Pentagon. Who does that leave? Melvin... what kind of name is 'Melvin' for a terrorist?... you can, ummm, go fly a plane into a small-town mall?"
DepricatedZero
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
ArthurWilborn
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I'm guessing the "security reasons" were less about terrorists and more about riots - it was a very emotional time.
Lallapalalable
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Ten years ago today my childhood started its decline, to be replaced by cynical adulthood. I became painfully aware of the fact that there were those who would want to harm innocents and that it could just as easily happen to me or those I know. My life became a haze of paranoia and fear. Ten years later, I still well up with tears when I relive that day. Nobody I knew was involved, thankfully, but I cant help but feel the grief and loss felt by those who suffered. I visited Ground Zero once, and that was enough. The massive empty space in the middle of lower Manhattan, and the revered silence, was too surreal.
This year, though, we had the closure of knowing Osama Bin Laden was brought down, and that the mission spawned that day had finally been accomplished. The next decade should be one of healing, because the last ten years have been very difficult, and Im sure everyone wishes to move on to the next chapter of our lives.
This year, though, we had the closure of knowing Osama Bin Laden was brought down, and that the mission spawned that day had finally been accomplished. The next decade should be one of healing, because the last ten years have been very difficult, and Im sure everyone wishes to move on to the next chapter of our lives.