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It's not just Wikipedia, it's in the documents that you provided me. Where? That's a bit vague. Which "modern foods"? I don't understand. Yes (see previous post) I don't know, it seems irrelevant if they have special genetic adaptations. Besides, when you are talking about meat-only diet...

What I will address in this post (among other things): - I show that your opinion about the status of veganism as a philosophical belief is wrong (update on the case); - I provide evidence that three contributors in this thread have said or implied that veganism is not possible or too difficult...

Message to moderators/editors: Could you please move Sparhafoc's previous message and this one to a new thread titled 'Notable quote about intelligence' (for example)? ==== The "fact" that you are stating may not be what you think it is (I explain more in this post). I'm way ahead of you on...

I told you many times that you did not understand my position, that you were misrepresenting me. It's no wonder that you think that I changed my position, but simply following the links that I give in my first post proves that you are wrong*. You just keep attacking my personality/honesty...

Two points: understanding that you are mistaken and becoming aware of all the other things being discussed. It is not the same at all: I read and answer you, and I explain why I disagree with you. Both are belief, and both can be deeply held. I don't know what you mean by "functionally". One...

I mean I addressed your points (and made others), and since you are not reading my answers, it might come up eventually as me saying something assuming what I said previously and you answering as if the previous message did not exist, because you wouldn't know about it. This seems inconvenient...

In that case, don't complain later that I didn't address your points. I'm not sure what you mean here. Even if you think that knowledge isn't a kind of belief (I myself am not sure about that), not all beliefs are religious, and belief in gravity is an example of such a non-religious belief...

I think I have notifications for all threads that I contributed to, but this is essentially true. I first came here from an Aron Ra video, and initially I didn't intend to contribute since I am not knowledgeable enough for most topics discussed. But when someone posted about (against) veganism...

This is a bit long and I don't know if I got everything. Please tell me if you think I failed to address something important. The article is about veganism as a deeply held belief, and yet veganism is not a religious belief. You (and maybe the author of the article too) are the one trying to...

You said "Deeply held beliefs that affect all aspects of your life?" as if it is supposed to be a problem (you didn't make a full sentence so I tried to guess). I take "deeply held" to signify high confidence, regardless of the justification, so I was trying to say that having such a belief is...

Is this a problem if there are good reasons? (for example, my deeply held beliefs about gravity affect many aspects of my life) I am aware that some vegans want to defend veganism as a religion, and I personally disagree with this position. However, despite the editorialized lede, the body of...

The simplest way I can think of: to feed the same amount of people, a switch to veganism would require less total crops because the decrease in animal-feed-crops would be larger than the increase in human-food-crops. More details follow. Today the food consumed by humans comes from plants eaten...

Before (non-vegan): total crops before = crops for humans before + crops for animals before After (vegan): total crops after = crops for humans after (increased) + crops for animals after (zero) My question is: do we have 'total crops before < total crops after' or 'total crops before > total...

Did I say otherwise? Yes. Does the total amount of crops (including both crops for humans and crops for animals) increase or decrease? You keep focusing on one thing ignoring everything else. A life, human or not, is not defined by its moment of death. And when it comes to the killing itself...

You don't see the restrictions in what you quoted, but I mentioned them many times before (people with allergies or other medical conditions, maybe special genetics). I understand that you don't have time to read everything that has already been written, but it is tedious to keep repeating the...

You accused me earlier of whataboutism, and yet it is precisely what you are doing here. I have said many times, in the previous thread and in this one, that the starting point of my argument is reasonable access to vegan options (information, food, tools, etc). Asking me "what about people who...

I don't understand what you are talking about. Are crops cultivated for animals not using the same techniques as crops cultivated for humans? The quantity and quality are different. All killings and deaths are not equivalent (otherwise we wouldn't distinguish between murders, accidents and...

(I skipped some parts for size) It is relevant only as one aspect, but you are using it in a way that is misleading (if we stop consuming chickens, we won't have to kill them anymore, but if we stop consuming wheat, there will still be plant farming-related deaths). The death aspect is what...

Animal products are not essential biologically, and my argument is for people who have access to options, regardless of their status as minority or majority. I only acknowledge that most people are currently not vegan, and people who live under difficult circumstances (war, poverty, etc) may...

And it is not my argument (plant farming is essential, animal products are not essential). And once again, killing is only one aspect. We don't just kill farm animals, we have a full system designed specifically to breed, exploit and kill them. It is not the same thing as the collateral damage...