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As I said before, yes there are some “atheist” answers that one can in theory provide to justify the existence of Objective Morality, but these alternatives are easy to refute. (feel free to pick your favorite and I will tell you why does it fail)
The point is that if atheism where true...
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http://www.leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14042&start=1000
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Shame on you, you are pathetic, and a liar…….Idiot
I am curios, how can you talk about suicide if you don’t believe in free will (or will)?
By definition suicide implies that you decided to kill yourself. In other words suicide implies that you had the option not to kill yourself and decided to kill yourself anyway.
quote from this post:
http://www.leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15387&start=740
However the difference between you and I is that at least I have a clear position that everybody understands.
Anyone who reads my post would know that I:
1 Believe that we have free will, which means...
In fact the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises; one can in theory molest children without being a pedophile. (If a pedophile is someone who feels sexual attraction for children then; you don’t necessarily need to feel sexual attraction for children in order to molest them)
But anyway...
You are confused, If I ask you something like “why is the window broken” you can answer ether “because the ball hit it” or “because the crystal bonds broke” both answers would be correct and each of these answers is independent from the other, (disproving one would not disprove the other)...
We can start and endless discussion or you can simply answer clearly and unambiguously with a simple yes or a simple no. ¿is it wrong to kill an innocent human? ¿are unborn children innocent humans?...........you don’t even have to justify your answers if you don’t want, I am only interested in...
What laws say about abortion is irrelevant; things may or may not be wrong independently on what the law says.
So is a 7 months old “unborn” a human? What about 6 months? Or 5 months?....or 2 months or 1 month? At one point does someone becomes a valuable human?
The point is that if an unborn...
I am pretty sure that everybody in this forum agrees that killing an innocent human is wrong. The controversial question is ¿“are unborn babies innocent humans”?
If a baby is born 2 months early (2 months before the 9 months) everybody would agree that the baby has rights and however tries to...
No one is saying that there are no alternatives, sure there are some “atheist” alternatives for objective morality, these alternatives are widely discussed and addressed by apologetics in their publish work.
The main point is that if “atheism” where true, what we call morality would most likely...
As far as I know there is not a direct verse in the bible that supports “degradation” one needs to do some “creative interpretation”
But the argument is based on the fact that most mutations are “slightly deleterious” this means that even though the effect is negative, the effect is very small...
Sure the ball would be the efficient cause for the broken window and “broken bonds in crystal” would be the material cause. The point that I am making is that material and efficient causes are independent from one and other, you can (at least in theory) one without the other. Do you agree with...
Care to elaborate an argument? (provide premises and conclusions)
How do you go from “simultaneous causation is possible” to therefore “something can create itself?”
sure, but the Hemispheres come in to existence in the same moment in which you end up cutting the spherical object.
Not to mention that you are suppose to be on my side, your are suppose to believe (or atleast you consider the possibility) that the universe might be eternal.
This means that...
The point that I am defending is that causes and effects can be simultaneous; I am not saying that it is always the case.
Sometimes the cause comes first, sometimes the cause comes first and overlaps with the effect, sometimes they both come in to existence simultaneously.
For example when...
Because “long” and ambiguous answers leave the door open to move from one position to an other.
When I ask something like:
You wont answer with a simple YES or a simple NO because a YES would require a burden proof and a NO would imply contradicting your atheist friends. This is why you rather...