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Dragan Glas @ for you only! on the discussion of evolution!

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Sorry if anybody thinks this cruel, but this really needs to be memorialised...
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Or am I the only one who facepalmed in extremis?
 
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LOL

You keep demonstrating that you don't have a fucking clue what you're yammering about.

Alleles don't have 'limits' you complete fucking dong - alleles are variants in a gene.

It's like you just read the first couple of sentences, realized you were clueless, and started yammering thinking you could bluff it - but of course, as I know what I am talking about, your idiotic nonsense is not going to fool me.




Why would they?

Only, you haven't explained why this would notionally occur.

It certainly has nothing to do with my explanation for you, so you're clearly a grossly incompetent buffoon making a tool of himself publicly.




Sexually transmitted diseases occur between humans, just so you're aware. Not that it's likely it'll ever matter to you as I can't imagine you've got much chance of getting laid.




Honestly, I am not sure it's possible for you to ever understand anything - you have to be one of the thickest individuals imaginable.

verity of genes wont come unless father or mother of child is coming from different background or else this allege but you are talking some nonsense that in course of upcoming time europeans will give births to chinese, africans, in spite of having sex with amongst europeans or whtie with whites.

hahaha, what an impractical nonsense. so you have practically nothing to desmontrate your hypothesis that how one room turns into another ? huh?

and now so far that sex life goes, so beyond humans if you had sex with dogs and monkeys or apes than you will die because your pseudo allele is not absolute but it works under certain limits. and those limits dont allow such things and instead of giving births womens gets diseased and gives gift to entire human race with aids, shyphilis as it is very common in europa.

so would you demonstrate your hypothesis or not ?
 
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Ordinarily, yes, that would be the idea. What's troublesome is long standing, intelligent members taking time out of their day to explain things in good faith to anning, and anning returning the favour by flipping them the bird.
 
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verity of genes wont come unless father or mother of child is coming from different background

Wuh?

Did you just gather together some random words and throw them at your computer screen?


or else this allege but you are talking some nonsense that in course of upcoming time europeans will give births to chinese, africans, in spite of having sex with amongst europeans or whtie with whites.

Stop being a mendacious little fuckwit, anning.

Half of your runtish nonsense is this kind of intentional bullshit - it doesn't even amount to a strawman as it's completely incoherent, but the intent is the same - to lie about what the other person said.

No, I never said anything like the above - you did.

The reason why you said it is because you are functionally bereft of any comprehension or understanding of the details we discussed, but your totally uinwarranted hubris won't allow you to acknowledge how ignorant you are, or what a moron you've made yourself look.


hahaha, what an impractical nonsense.

That you wrote. We know.

Like all the other random, foam-flecked gibbering you routinely spew: it's indicative of the ineptness of your mind.


so you have practically nothing to desmontrate your hypothesis that how one room turns into another ? huh?

Your inability to understand = / = no demonstration

I already wrote an explanation on the 3rd post of this thread. If you are too stupid to understand it - that's not my problem, it's yours.

And the hubris is hilarious - as if YOU are the arbiter of truth. You have shown how ignorant you are - I genuinely think you'd struggle in a normal high school; you'd need remedial lessons just to not bring the children down.


and now so far that sex life goes, so beyond humans if you had sex with dogs and monkeys or apes than you will die

You just write random gibberish repeatedly, don't you?

You might as well be shouting at the wall, anning. The wall won't realize you're lying to it.


because your pseudo allele

HAHAHAHAH

He thinks alleles are 'pseudo' - you can stop pretending to have any interest in reality at all, anning.


is not absolute but it works under certain limits. and those limits dont allow such things and instead of giving births womens gets diseased and gives gift to entire human race with aids, shyphilis as it is very common in europa.

Fuck off you gibbering little bigot.


so would you demonstrate your hypothesis or not ?

Any time you want to stop being a twat, start engaging with some good faith, let us know. Until then, go back to fucking your goats to try to disprove evolution.
 
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Ordinarily, yes, that would be the idea. What's troublesome is long standing, intelligent members taking time out of their day to explain things in good faith to anning, and anning returning the favour by flipping them the bird.

Don't get me wrong, if anning was anything other than a snivelling little career troll who spends his life fucking about with strangers on the internet, but instead had an actual desire to engage with good faith - then I'd respond in kind.

However, instead I am responding in kind! :)

I like how he keeps squeaking - he usually gets banned before he's made to squeak.
 
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A species is a population of organisms.

That population is spread out over an area.

Among that population is naturally occurring variation.

That variation is genetic, and therefore inheritable.

An allele is one of two, or more, forms of a given gene variant.

Over time (reproductive generations) the population will experience changes in the frequency of the distribution of alleles across that population.

That, with nothing more necessary to add, is how the process of evolution works.

However, we need to go a step further to answer the remainder of your question.

There are 4 types of speciation: allopatric, paripatric, and sympatric.

Allopatric speciation occurs when some physical barrier arises between two parts of the overall population meaning that the groups are separated physically and cannot continue to interbreed. Over generations, the two groups which are reproductively isolated from one and other will accrue novel genetic mutations that spread through the population and will, overall, have a substantively different distribution of alleles that will only continue to grow the longer the two groups are separated. Eventually, the two groups will no longer even be reproductively compatible and will be considered two distinct species.

Peripatric is more about the colonization of a new territory by a subset of the main population which then results in the same barrier to reproduction, and isolation producing speciation.

But there are many ways for it to occur, even large group size and successful spreading over a large area can promote speciation when subgroups no longer frequently interbreed.

All of this is evidenced in thousands of studies, has been observed in the lab (with bacterial studies and fruit flies for example), and in the wild in a population of lizards (for example) and can be corroborated by genetics, and by the discovery of fossils. As mentioned earlier, both biogeographical distribution and comparative anatomy also provide more consilient evidence corroborating the fact of evolution.


Which bit don't you understand, anning?

Is it the bit that starts... "A species is..." and ends with "... corroborating the fact of evolution"?

Yeah, thought so.
 
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The only thing "admin" is openly partial to is not having multiple dumpster fire threads brimming with copy-paste unintelligible gibberish. Call me crazy. Are you friends with Otangelo?

Who the fuck do you think you're kidding, anning? YOU are guilty of the aforementioned offences, not anyone else, you and only you.

You've had one thread locked after multiple warnings, you've had 2x temp bans of the shortest period this forum allows for, and all for the same crap. The previous thread was locked because it could no longer serve the purpose for which it was intended, you were invited to make a new thread and start again, and here we are with the same infantile cockwaffle.

Stop telling other members to leave the thread/forum. In case you hadn't noticed for some bizarre reason, this isn't your website.

really ? huh? really? did you traced everything that how it started ? am i mad that i will abuse any random person without knowing them ? do you want to say that cringe, crazy type of idiot ? that i would do anything like that without any reason ?

did you seen our fellow member ? and since now everything is given in written, so i have solid proof that how it started. but it all has fallen blind into your eyes. and what is that unintelligible gibberish ? huh? that you are not neurtal against me ? and partial to your fellow members who are nothing but attention seeking whores, because all lines of reasaoning they have rejected. and still asked me to appolize them ? all are ranting, moaning, screaming etc nonsense are done but fun is you are also similar to like them, or else how one can support such foolishness ?

so instead of being not neutral against me nothing is really unintelligent rubbish.
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and this website maybe mine or anyone else, but you cannot make your own laws that 2 + 2 would be 3 or 5 for the members of this forum. do you understand that ? that you cannot do either after keeping such names of this forum like leauge of reasonoing. do you understand that ? ( o competent reasonable man ?) huh?

and now find it out that here and here i disturbed anyone else ? can you point it out ? yet all uncivilized varna sankars disturbed me, moaned at me, ranted after breaking all lines of reasoning.

i think that someone else who happened to be the wiser than the wisest spoke it all rightly, that when one gets everything so easily, and have everything they dont want peaceful life anymore.
 
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Yes, you do lack the ability to understand, which is why you keep jabbering ignorant nonsense that would embarrass a child.




Yeah, so people from a given population have a suite of alleles distinct to that population, ergo when people from two populations mix, the alleles also mix. This should already have been quite clear from my explanation, but you're obviously about as intelligent as a rock, so I understand why you're confused. Confusion must be your normal state of mind given how dense you are.




Another bizarre idea you've decided to repeat 50 times, even when the first iteration was embarrassingly inept.




Evolution isn't pokemon, chap.

No understanding of evolution entails believing that cross-breeding between different species would occur - in fact, I expressly told you this in the post you're supposedly replying to, but you're just too damn stupid to understand...



See?

No, because you're thick. That's why.



Already done - feel free to grow up, mature intellectually, discover some basic moral principles, then come back and have another swing at it.

Until then...
What a drooling numpty!

you are an broken person, but i dont think that this is very big problem for the idiots like you. so dont bother at all.

because now due to this off-shot or one species or room turning into another, would make some europeans ( who having sex with another europeans or whites only ) give birth to chinese or blacks. and what do we all this practical nonsense ? allele! another nonsense.

now you be very happy with your advancement. and enjoy your life. and do not troll here.
 
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As long as you can tell the difference between fact and fantasy, then a little imaginative play is only a good thing. Its when you think the contents of your imagination decree reality that shit goes wrong.

yes, whites began to give births to blacks, chinese, japanese in spite of having sex with only whites. what an amazing fact this pseudo allele is! waha!

and fun is you didnt seen evolution either, you just believe darwin aka the whore, instead of real mother who said that there is father before our birth. but no we are going to listen the darwin without questioning.

so you won ( broken idiot ) now go away.
 
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Greetings,

This thread is in danger of getting side-tracked like the other one.

Can we please just focus on evolution, and ignore any distractions?


Anning, you appear to have several misunderstandings about evolution.

You appear to think that evolution works instantly through sex- it doesn't.

1) Evolution works through natural selection - it's the environment that drives evolution. As I explained in the other thread, the environment shapes species in the same way that a vessel shapes the water into which it is poured.

In fact, the full title of Darwin's book is, "On The Origin Of Species, By Natural Selection".

2) It takes very long periods of time for new species to evolve.

Yes, cats don't give birth to dogs - but over a very long period of time (millions of years), small changes will eventually result in a species resembling dogs.

Land animals evolved from fish.

Early on, some members of coast-dwelling fish were able to drag themselves onto beaches for short periods of time to eat something, perhaps insects.

These had an advantage over the other fish.

They passed on the genes allowing their offspring to also drag themselves onto beaches.

Over a very long period of time. through many generations. this resulted in more than one population.

1) The original population of water-only fish (aquatic);
2) A second population that were equally at home in water, and on land (amphibious);
3) A third population that were more at home on land rather than in water (terrestrial).

You start out with one population (species), and end up with three populations (species).

The evolution of whales went the other way - we started out with mammals (particularly a coast-dwelling species), from which an amphibious species evolved, from which an aquatic species evolved

Does this make sense?

Kindest regards,

James
just demonstrate how this off-shot takes place ? how one room or species turns into another ? damn how ?

now that allele is not an proof of anything, because white or europeans people who have sex with another whites or europeans wont give births to blacks or chinese people. do you understand it ?

and there is nothing natural in our world, because there is immigration laws and so many things like laws and justice, education, military, dressing, english medium types of schools, trading, economy etc things which are maintained by everyone else, because we humans give it shapes. so we have control upon things and are not free to anything like natural selection! do you understnad that ? huh?

so what this allele is ? huh? does it made ever possible that white having sex another whites giving births to chinese or blacks ? if not than how does this off-shot or one room or species turning into another takes place ? damn how ?
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and whatever nonsense you are speaking after observing lots of superficially rubbish things dont makes sense at all. you dont makes sense.

because - because your allele has now failed so would you demonstrate your hypothesis ? would you ? demonstrate your hypothesis and nothing else.
 
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HAHAHAHAH

He thinks alleles are 'pseudo' - you can stop pretending to have any interest in reality at all, anning.

just like you ? who is beaten in so many points! yet have no effect at all ? huh? do you meant just like yourself ? huh?

nope, you keep your advice to yourself. ;)
 
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really ? huh? really? did you traced everything that how it started ? am i mad that i will abuse any random person without knowing them ? do you want to say that cringe, crazy type of idiot ? that i would do anything like that without any reason ?

did you seen our fellow member ? and since now everything is given in written, so i have solid proof that how it started. but it all has fallen blind into your eyes. and what is that unintelligible gibberish ? huh? that you are not neurtal against me ? and partial to your fellow members who are nothing but attention seeking whores, because all lines of reasaoning they have rejected. and still asked me to appolize them ? all are ranting, moaning, screaming etc nonsense are done but fun is you are also similar to like them, or else how one can support such foolishness ?

so instead of being not neutral against me nothing is really unintelligent rubbish.
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and this website maybe mine or anyone else, but you cannot make your own laws that 2 + 2 would be 3 or 5 for the members of this forum. do you understand that ? that you cannot do either after keeping such names of this forum like leauge of reasonoing. do you understand that ? ( o competent reasonable man ?) huh?

and now find it out that here and here i disturbed anyone else ? can you point it out ? yet all uncivilized varna sankars disturbed me, moaned at me, ranted after breaking all lines of reasoning.

i think that someone else who happened to be the wiser than the wisest spoke it all rightly, that when one gets everything so easily, and have everything they dont want peaceful life anymore.

Enjoy the flight, hope there isn't too much turbulence. The in-flight movies will be as crap as they always were, and the destination is the same as last time. But this holiday is longer, we just booked you a nice two day stay at the "anywhere that isn't here" resort. See you when you get back, do let us know how the weather was.

In case you're too dense to understand that, the grown ups are giving you nap time again, and there isn't anything you can do about it.
Your 3rd ban (that's this one, pay attention) auto-lifts midnight GMT 03 June 2021.

If you return after your vacation, which you are free to do, and the need arises to pack you off once again, it'll be a week long stay in the resort of "anywhere that isn't here" - keep going, try me.
 
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Greetings,

just demonstrate how this off-shot takes place ? how one room or species turns into another ? damn how ?

I already explained it on page 2.

Here it is again:

Greetings,

This thread is in danger of getting side-tracked like the other one.

Can we please just focus on evolution, and ignore any distractions?


Anning, you appear to have several misunderstandings about evolution.

You appear to think that evolution works instantly through sex- it doesn't.

1) Evolution works through natural selection - it's the environment that drives evolution. As I explained in the other thread, the environment shapes species in the same way that a vessel shapes the water into which it is poured.

In fact, the full title of Darwin's book is, "On The Origin Of Species, By Natural Selection".

2) It takes very long periods of time for new species to evolve.

Yes, cats don't give birth to dogs - but over a very long period of time (millions of years), small changes will eventually result in a species resembling dogs.

Land animals evolved from fish.

Early on, some members of coast-dwelling fish were able to drag themselves onto beaches for short periods of time to eat something, perhaps insects.

These had an advantage over the other fish.

They passed on the genes allowing their offspring to also drag themselves onto beaches.

Over a very long period of time. through many generations. this resulted in more than one population.

1) The original population of water-only fish (aquatic);
2) A second population that were equally at home in water, and on land (amphibious);
3) A third population that were more at home on land rather than in water (terrestrial).

You start out with one population (species), and end up with three populations (species).

The evolution of whales went the other way - we started out with mammals (particularly a coast-dwelling species), from which an amphibious species evolved, from which an aquatic species evolved

Does this make sense?

Kindest regards,

James

Read through it line by line - tell me which line do you not understand and/or agree with.

now that allele is not an proof of anything, because white or europeans people who have sex with another whites or europeans wont give births to blacks or chinese people. do you understand it ?

Do you understand that modern humans came out of Africa. spread to Europe (where they interbred with an earlier hominid called Neanderthals), then spread to Asia (where they interbred with another earlier hominid called Denisovans) before, finally spreading to the Americas?

We're all a single species despite looking different.

We're also a mongrel species because we're the result of the interbreeding between a number of related hominids - both before we left Africa, and after.

If you were to have a DNA test, you'd find that you have African, and European DNA. Depending on which caste you belong, there may be other Asian DNA within your genome.

and there is nothing natural in our world, because there is immigration laws and so many things like laws and justice, education, military, dressing, english medium types of schools, trading, economy etc things which are maintained by everyone else, because we humans give it shapes. so we have control upon things and are not free to anything like natural selection! do you understnad that ? huh?

Of course we're at the mercy of natural selection: we get 50% of our genes from each of our parents, and we are each born with anything up to 200 mutations in our genes (depending on how they're counted - the average is 70).

All of that means that we're at the mercy of natural selection - neither our parents or you or I or anyone get to choose which genes we get. The 50% of genes from each of our parents is unpredictable, if not random - there's no human control over it. I have an unidentical twin brother - we have different genes from our parents even though we have the same parents, and are twins.

Do you understand?

so what this allele is ? huh? does it made ever possible that white having sex another whites giving births to chinese or blacks ? if not than how does this off-shot or one room or species turning into another takes place ? damn how ?
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As Sparhafoc explained to you, an allele is a gene variant, due to the mutations I mentioned above.

As I told you above, I already explained how species evolve on page 2, which I included at the top of this post.

And you're still repeating this idea that evolution occurs instantly through sex. Re-read my post above.

and whatever nonsense you are speaking after observing lots of superficially rubbish things dont makes sense at all. you dont makes sense.

because - because your allele has now failed so would you demonstrate your hypothesis ? would you ? demonstrate your hypothesis and nothing else.

Read through my post above again, and tell me at which point in my explanation are you getting lost. I am more than happy to try to clear up your misunderstanding, anning.

Kindest regards,

James
 
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Greetings,
I already explained it on page 2.

Here it is again: 1) Evolution works through natural selection - it's the environment that drives evolution. As I explained in the other thread, the environment shapes species in the same way that a vessel shapes the water into which it is poured.



Read through it line by line - tell me which line do you not understand and/or agree with.



Do you understand that modern humans came out of Africa. spread to Europe (where they interbred with an earlier hominid called Neanderthals), then spread to Asia (where they interbred with another earlier hominid called Denisovans) before, finally spreading to the Americas?

We're all a single species despite looking different.

We're also a mongrel species because we're the result of the interbreeding between a number of related hominids - both before we left Africa, and after.

If you were to have a DNA test, you'd find that you have African, and European DNA. Depending on which caste you belong, there may be other Asian DNA within your genome.



Of course we're at the mercy of natural selection: we get 50% of our genes from each of our parents, and we are each born with anything up to 200 mutations in our genes (depending on how they're counted - the average is 70).

All of that means that we're at the mercy of natural selection - neither our parents or you or I or anyone get to choose which genes we get. The 50% of genes from each of our parents is unpredictable, if not random - there's no human control over it. I have an unidentical twin brother - we have different genes from our parents even though we have the same parents, and are twins.

Do you understand?



As Sparhafoc explained to you, an allele is a gene variant, due to the mutations I mentioned above.

As I told you above, I already explained how species evolve on page 2, which I included at the top of this post.

And you're still repeating this idea that evolution occurs instantly through sex. Re-read my post above.



Read through my post above again, and tell me at which point in my explanation are you getting lost. I am more than happy to try to clear up your misunderstanding, anning.

Kindest regards,

James

now so far water taking shape of vessel when it is poured in it goes, so if we put rose flower with mango tree or something else in same enviourment like mango or others are kept in than why it doesnt change into something else ? and give us mango trees ? did you ever seen rose plant giving mangoes ? what is your answer ? even not single rose plant is giving us another fragrant flower bisides rose flower. why ? and besides this i have one more question that does pouring water into vessel also takes some very long time ? if not than how can you compare with this evolution ? huh? because pouring water takes very little time yet you said that evolution happens in very long time ? so your pouring water is not practical at all because one room or species never turns into another room, its the only person or soul who can go to one species or room and take the shape of vessel.

so do tell me that how long it takes pouring water into vessel ? some million upon million years ? if not than whatever nonsense you are talking is not practical.
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im also very happy to discuss things with you. im not lost at all. but you clear it out that how long it takes to pour water ?
 
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I'm like 98% sure that a transplanted rose flower transforming into a mango tree would disprove evolution.
 
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just like you ? who is beaten in so many points!

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Because chronically ignorant people are the arbiters of valid arguments!

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You really are the thickest person Ive ever met, and that's saying something.


yet have no effect at all ? huh? do you meant just like yourself ? huh?

nope, you keep your advice to yourself. ;)

As I've informed you many times, anning. You are basically the shit on our shoes - you have no power to tell anyone what to do. You don't even have a seat at the table of competent adults. You are a moron we're all toying with. :)
 
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