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Y U NO GAME OF THRONES THREAD?!

arg-fallbackName="Collecemall"/>
I get confused watching the tv series. Half the time I experience Deja Vu because I think something has already happened. The rest I'm wondering what's going on because it's different from the book. Admittedly I don't always read to retain and tv I watch while doing something else. They stay just close enough to use the same characters and basic plot line but the liberties they take are pretty substantial. HBO better hope the next book drops in the next year. There's very little left for them to cover without either having to make it up whole cloth or unless Martin has given them advanced plot lines.
 
arg-fallbackName="Inferno"/>
I haven't watched the series yet because I want to read ALL the books first. Yes, that includes those not yet written.

However, friends who have read the books tell me that the 5th series has little to nothing to do with the book.
 
arg-fallbackName="SpecialFrog"/>
Virtually everything that happens in season five happens in the books, though it sometimes happens to different characters.
 
arg-fallbackName="he_who_is_nobody"/>
Inferno said:
I haven't watched the series yet because I want to read ALL the books first. Yes, that includes those not yet written.

Do not waste your time on the books. The show is way better.
Collecemall said:
HBO better hope the next book drops in the next year. There's very little left for them to cover without either having to make it up whole cloth or unless Martin has given them advanced plot lines.

Martin gave the creators of the show his outline of where the story is going and how it ends. Since the writers of the show are better writers then Martin, I think the show will tell the story better then Martin will in his books. Thus, there truly is no point in reading the last books Martin creates.
 
arg-fallbackName="SpecialFrog"/>
I can't think of a single line of Martin dialogue as bad as that one sand snake line last night. :)
 
arg-fallbackName="Visaki"/>
he_who_is_nobody said:
Do not waste your time on the books. The show is way better.
I can give you one clear, powerfull word why the show is, and allways will be, better than the books even without having read any of the books:

Tits.

I mean Tyrion. Yeah, that's the right word.
 
arg-fallbackName="he_who_is_nobody"/>
SpecialFrog said:
I can't think of a single line of Martin dialogue as bad as that one sand snake line last night. :)

Ha!

What I mean is that Martin gets lost in the weeds when writing. He does not know what to leave in the book as part of the story and what to cut out because it just gets in the way of the story. He could still publish the weeds if he thought it would help, much like Tolkien did in separate compendiums. Basically want I am saying is that Martin has a great story, but a bad way of telling it. The show creators are able to distill the story down and tell it in a great way.

Martin needs his own C. S. Lewis and not the fan boys and girls he has helping him.
 
arg-fallbackName="SpecialFrog"/>
he_who_is_nobody said:
[What I mean is that Martin gets lost in the weeds when writing. He does not know what to leave in the book as part of the story and what to cut out because it just gets in the way of the story. He could still publish the weeds if he thought it would help, much like Tolkien did in separate compendiums. Basically want I am saying is that Martin has a great story, but a bad way of telling it. The show creators are able to distill the story down and tell it in a great way.

I have a fairly high tolerance for meandering in written fiction so long as it is enjoyable. I even like Stephenson's Baroque Cycle.

Still, I take your point and I am generally happy with the show's distillations.

Except for Dorne. I don't know what they thought they were doing there.
 
arg-fallbackName="Laurens"/>
I started on the books, got to the third one and got really annoyed at the amount of times he uses the term "waddled" to describe how Tyrion walks. I'm not sure I can go on.

The TV series is pretty good though.
 
arg-fallbackName="Gnug215"/>
Laurens said:
I started on the books, got to the third one and got really annoyed at the amount of times he uses the term "waddled" to describe how Tyrion walks. I'm not sure I can go on.

The TV series is pretty good though.

I haven't read the books, and I'm not really an avid reader. I find authors to do many annoying things that turn me off reading, and I've heard GRRRR Martin does some annoying things as well...

... but THAT is what turned you off these books?

That seems... pretty minor.
 
arg-fallbackName="Laurens"/>
Gnug215 said:
Laurens said:
I started on the books, got to the third one and got really annoyed at the amount of times he uses the term "waddled" to describe how Tyrion walks. I'm not sure I can go on.

The TV series is pretty good though.

I haven't read the books, and I'm not really an avid reader. I find authors to do many annoying things that turn me off reading, and I've heard GRRRR Martin does some annoying things as well...

... but THAT is what turned you off these books?

That seems... pretty minor.

I think its the most obvious characteristic of his poor writing. But it is not that alone that put me off.

Don't get me wrong he is excellent at crafting plots and characters etc. But his prose is a bit shit.
 
arg-fallbackName="Gnug215"/>
Laurens said:
Gnug215 said:
I haven't read the books, and I'm not really an avid reader. I find authors to do many annoying things that turn me off reading, and I've heard GRRRR Martin does some annoying things as well...

... but THAT is what turned you off these books?

That seems... pretty minor.

I think its the most obvious characteristic of his poor writing. But it is not that alone that put me off.

Don't get me wrong he is excellent at crafting plots and characters etc. But his prose is a bit shit.


Ah, ok. Hmm, how exactly is it shit? Clumsy sentences? Repetitious vocabulary? Not enough ice cream?
 
arg-fallbackName="Laurens"/>
Gnug215 said:
Ah, ok. Hmm, how exactly is it shit? Clumsy sentences? Repetitious vocabulary? Not enough ice cream?

I just find the vocabulary quite limited. Which leads to him being repetitive. This is epitomised by the over use of "waddling" Tyrion. Some of it is alright, but several books in the repetitiveness gets more and more noticeable.

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arg-fallbackName="WarK"/>
he_who_is_nobody said:
Holy shit! That was one of the most brutal things I have ever watched.

Admittedly, there was a few deaths and a certain amount of blood.

Have a nice day.
 
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WarK said:
he_who_is_nobody said:
Holy shit! That was one of the most brutal things I have ever watched.

Admittedly, there was a few deaths and a certain amount of blood.

Have a nice day.

And mud. There was mud, too. And bodies. I saw many a bloody, muddy body.
 
arg-fallbackName="WarK"/>
Gnug215 said:
WarK said:
Admittedly, there was a few deaths and a certain amount of blood.

Have a nice day.

And mud. There was mud, too. And bodies. I saw many a bloody, muddy body.

And some dogs. They were hungry.
 
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