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What would it take for you, to accept the existence of God as fact?

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So fellow atheists, agnostics and the rest of the blasphemers,
what would it take, for you to accept that God does exist?
And to be fair here, let us go with the bare minimum of evidence that has to be presented to make you a believer.

I ll start .. the bare minimum would be priests and nuns running around performing actual miracles, on a level seen in fantasy. You know ... a simple heal spell that can be performed at any time, would be about the amount of evidence needed to make me a believer.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,

So fellow atheists, agnostics and the rest of the blasphemers,
what would it take, for you to accept that God does exist?
And to be fair here, let us go with the bare minimum of evidence that has to be presented to make you a believer.

I ll start .. the bare minimum would be priests and nuns running around performing actual miracles, on a level seen in fantasy. You know ... a simple heal spell that can be performed at any time, would be about the amount of evidence needed to make me a believer.
This wouldn't be evidence of a deity, merely that they can do magic - even if they claim their powers came from this or that deity. (Think Potterverse or Star Wars - it's in the genes/blood.)

Kindest regards,

James
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
I don't know, but I'd know when I see it.

Any evidence at all would be a grand start. Thousands of years of billions of people believing, and yet still not a single shred of evidence among them all.
 
arg-fallbackName="Deleted member 619"/>
My stock answer to this, somewhat tongue in cheek, is 'nothing'.

Seriously, show me 'nothing' in a stable and persistent state, and I'll accept that there are miracles. Then it's just the introduction.
 
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I don't know, but I'd know when I see it.

Any evidence at all would be a grand start. Thousands of years of billions of people believing, and yet still not a single shred of evidence among them all.
Aye and, more importantly, if there really is an entity that could reasonably be described as a deity worthy of the proper noun status, it certainly knows what it would take, so it's hardly my problem.

Of course, I maintain that I'd remain an atheist. Of course I'd accept its existence, but it wouldn't be mine, and I certainly wouldn't be its.
 
arg-fallbackName="Deleted member 42253"/>
This wouldn't be evidence of a deity, merely that they can do magic - even if they claim their powers came from this or that deity. (Think Potterverse or Star Wars - it's in the genes/blood.)
The sheer existence of magic would be enough for me and I would throw myself at the foot of the first God that would take me.

Atheism is a pretty silly position in an enviroment were people chuck around fireballs. Doesnt mean you have to follow a God though, like hack said.
 
arg-fallbackName="*SD*"/>
Heard this question multiple times, and it's hard to answer. If it was something spectacular, I might be moved by that, but in the absence of something qualifying (for me) as that, all I can really do is guess how I would feel about it.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,

The sheer existence of magic would be enough for me and I would throw myself at the foot of the first God that would take me.

Atheism is a pretty silly position in an enviroment were people chuck around fireballs. Doesnt mean you have to follow a God though, like hack said.
If a deity appeared before me, it would depend on the circumstances.

For example, if Thor appeared before me, is this Thor from the Avengers (from the planet Asgard - within the universe) or is it Thor from the original Norse mythology (outside space-time)/

How would I tell - regardless of what he said?

How would I know it's not an illusion created by a magician to fool me into thinking that this or that god exists?

I don't believe there's any proof that could not be an illusion conjured up by a magician/sorcerer/wizard/etc.

Kindest regards,

James
 
arg-fallbackName="he_who_is_nobody"/>
These sum it up very nicely, in my opinion:


However, personally, for me, I would accept this:

Of course, I maintain that I'd remain an atheist. Of course I'd accept its existence, but it wouldn't be mine, and I certainly wouldn't be its.
Would that not make you a deist and not an atheist? You would know/believe that there is a god; you would not worship it.
 
arg-fallbackName="Deleted member 619"/>
I would still fulfil the privative, because I would still be without theism, without a deity. What do you do with one anyway? Wheel it out as an ice-breaker at parties? Stand it in the corner like that guitar you always promised yourself you'd learn to play one day?

If there is such a thing, it's nothing to do with me.
 
arg-fallbackName="Greg the Grouper"/>
I'm not really sure how to answer this question? Even if something could prove itself to be a god, I feel like the reality of it would be extremely underwhelming. We'd see it in action, probably find some physical principle underlying its miracles through direct observation, and move on. 'God' is a thing so built up in my mind from my upbringing that I doubt a tangible, physical god could actually live up to my expectations.

I'm not even sure what those expectations are, to be honest. I just think I would see this god, and come to think that I had expected something else.
 
arg-fallbackName="Deleted member 42253"/>
I would still fulfil the privative, because I would still be without theism, without a deity. What do you do with one anyway? Wheel it out as an ice-breaker at parties? Stand it in the corner like that guitar you always promised yourself you'd learn to play one day?
Gods tend to have some kinda master plan ... now if we are talking Christianity, you would be helping in bringing about the apocalypse and end all life on earth.
That was the plan of the Christian God, no?
In Hinduism you would basically be a soldier in the battles and squabbles among Gods. Following Greek mythology, you would basically be the Gods plaything, which can be pretty nice or a fate worse than death. Following nordic myths, you would aim to get into Valhalla, to be part of the glorious battle bringing about the end of the world ...
Actually, most of the time, you would be trying to kill all humans.
 
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Yeah, none of that sounds like my kind of fun.
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
Oh, I thought of something else: tooling marks on an electron.

The problem with refining the design of electrons is that every time you manage to catch up with one of the speedy little buggers to get started, you realize you don't know exactly where it is.
 
arg-fallbackName="surreptitious75"/>
This question is practically impossible to answer because of the hypothetical nature of God
God is metaphysical by definition and since that cannot be experienced by human beings some other form would have to be taken instead
But the more realistic that form would be then the less likely I would be to think it was God so it would therefore have to appear in a significantly less realistic form
However were this form too unrealistic - which it would have to be - then I would think my brain was making me hallucinate something that was not actually there
Manipulating reality in such a way that violated the laws of physics would also have the same effect and so that would be just as ineffective
So the only possible scenario I think would work would be to plant a meme in my pre frontal cortex that would eventually make me believe
I would never suspect external agency thinking instead that I had arrived at the conclusion entirely of my own free will
 
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Another reason for me to accept the existence of god ...
If Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson, alias The Mountain, stood before me and told me, he was god, I would become a believer right that moment.
 
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