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What makes Christianity moral?

DepricatedZero

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All the time we hear from Christians that atheists have no moral compass, that we don't have morals, or whathaveyou.

Now I'm actually here to discuss the polar opposite of that claim. To turn it on its head.

How good of a person can someone possibly be, that their only motivation for not stealing, raping, and killing people, is the fear that their imaginary friend will shun them?

I refrain from these actions because I have a conscience, because it would upset me to do them, because I feel it is immoral to do them. I refrain from doing them because they're wrong, not for fear of my imaginary friend.

What leg do Christians have to stand on in claiming that Christianity bears any form of morality?
 
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DepricatedZero said:
How good of a person can someone possibly be, that their only motivation for not stealing, raping, and killing people, is the fear that their imaginary friend will shun them?
I've heard some say that this is exactly why they don't do these things. But I always wonder what's to stop you when your God already considers you a sinner no matter what you do and the only (apparent) requirement for forgiveness is acceptance of Jesus. There appears no moral obligation at all to be good - you are a sinner, why not sin?
 
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It's essentially just a normative claim. What they're saying is, "I have a rule book, you don't." Or, more pointedly, "I do not determine my own morality but view it as an externally mandated obligate condition, I infer from your position that you are free to essentially make up whatever moral guidelines most appeal to you."

I think theowarner actually does a good job with this:
 
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Christians have morals. The following are sources: a. God, b. Bible, c. Christian books about morality, d. Priest, e. Pastor, f. Church leaders, g. Group leaders, h. Elders in the church, i. Bible groups, j. Couple's for Christ, and others.

God is not their only reason for being moral. The bible is not their only book.

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A morality based on the mind and attitudes of god would necessarily be a subjective morality, not an objective one which certain Christian apologists seem to desire.
 
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Sounds to me to be more like mere sycophantic obedience than morality. But ok.
 
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Christians assume that god is good. Christians assume that what is good is moral. Christians believe this to be true. Therefore, in their eyes, Christianity is moral.

From the assumption that god is good, christians created many different literature. The purpose of such literature is to promote acceptable behavior in accordance to what the bible says is good.

Believers of different ages propagate this to others, especially within their circle.

In their defense, it works. However, when a smart man or woman takes advantage of such and insert their personal agenda, the effects turn out for the worse.

The Christian morality is not the best. However, it is also not the worst. I can live and tolerate such. But I do hope that a time will come where people will no longer have to open a holy text or anything related to such for their source of morality.

-oOo-

Consequently, from this issue, many self-help books came to be.
 
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