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The Theory Of Everything put me in a tight spot

valerytozer

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I was watching and my friend Amanda watched it with me,

Conversation between my friend Amanda and myself:
After we watch Stephen Hawking and The Theory Of Everything 1 of 10
on youtube.

me: that video we watched said that there may
be other dimensions, thats kool right? (just making small talk)

Amanda: Ya, That just verifies that haven and hell
are real!

Me: What?
Amanda: Well if there other dimensions are then
you can't say There's no god.

Me: What?, look that dose not prove anything,
it just means there are other dimensions.

Amanda: Then that means god is real.

(thinking in my head, how do I deal with this??)(I knew she was going to use the,
"Well, that ex-planes haven and hell",) (so to counter this i said)

Me: they said there may be 11 other dimensions
not 14.

Amanda: What do you mean?

Me: There's not 14, theres Heaven, the 12 layers of it, Hell and purgatory.
thats 14.

Amanda: Then you just have not found the others!

Me: You are hopeless, There is no god, heaven or hell, Deal with it.

Take it for what it is a :facepalm: :facepalm:
How do I deal with this???
 
arg-fallbackName="australopithecus"/>
By explaining that the word 'dimension' doesn't mean what she thinks it means.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension
 
arg-fallbackName="nasher168"/>
On the existence of God... yes, God might be lurking in those dimensions somehow, but that doesn't mean there is evidence that he is. No one can ever say with certainty that God does not exist. But with no positive evidence in favour of God's existence, there is no reason to believe he does.
The idea of there being 11 dimensions rather than the 4 we are accustomed to does not in any way provide evidence for the existence of God.

Furthermore, she (and you too, perhaps) has a fundamental misunderstanding of what physicists mean when they say "dimension".

A dimension is not some kind of strange parallel universe separate from our own. Length is a dimension. Width is a dimension. Depth is a dimension. Time is a dimension.

To say "heaven is a dimension" doesn't make a lot of sense. It would be like a flat creature that lives in 2 dimensions saying that heaven must be in the 3rd dimension (the z-axis).


I apologise to the mathematicians if I've done a poor job of explaining this.
 
arg-fallbackName="WarK"/>
An astral plane, or something like that? I think that's what she thinks dimensions are.
 
arg-fallbackName="valerytozer"/>
yes it helped thank you, and i know , but i was trying not to talk with her about that because she will not see reason, so i tried to avoid that and just go with her reasoning and it just back fired on me, know i don't know what to do.

thank you

I understand some things, and i am working on the things i do not, the best i can.
as for her, she is a christian, and i don't think will ever change.
but i still try , don't know why, but i do, guess because i had so many others quite on me, i cant bring myself to quite on her.
 
arg-fallbackName="Prolescum"/>
Purgatory? Didn't the Catholic church disown that ridiculous idea a couple of years ago? Sounds to me like she's just confusing bits of Divine Comedy with gibberish.

As to how to deal with it, I'd say gently.
 
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Prolescum said:
Purgatory? Didn't the Catholic church disown that ridiculous idea a couple of years ago?

That was Limbo, where people go if they die before baptism or if they died before Jesus did. Purgatory (where you go if you were a cunt but still had faith in Jesus and God the whole time) is, AFAIK , still part of Catholic belief.
 
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