In part 4 of "Why people laugh at creationists" tunderfoot is amaised by Hovind, who has made a claim that is wrong by a factor of a trilion. However this mistake is nothing compared to the Transcedental Argument for the existance of God(TAG).
We can ignore the inumerable falacies in this argument we can grant the proponents of TAG everythink that they want in order to prove god, and in the conlusion of this argument, there is the biggest error imaginable.
They claim that the logical absolutes are transcendent and not dependant of the mind, and then that they claim that they are conceptual and dependant on the mind. No problem so far, give them that so they could dug their own grave deeper at the end.
Then they claim that the logical absolutes are perfect and can be cocived only by perfect mind.
At first it may not look as mindblowingly wrong as it is, unles you give it a thought.
What are the logical absolutes? They are officialy three lows, but can be reduced to two.
1. Low of identity : Things are what they are, and are not what they are not.
This is true in any imaginable hypothetical or real situations. Even if the univerce does not exist, it dosnt violate this low - It is what it is - a non existance, and it's not what it is not - an existant univerce.
2. Low of non contradiction : Things can not be what they are and what they are not at the same time.
This is rather awkward special case of the first low, and can be eliminated. Since things are not what they are not at all times, so they are not what they are not at the same time as when they are what they are, wich is allso at all times.
3. Low of Excluded Midle : A statement can be ether right or wrong. It can't be something in between, and it can't be both.
So this two or three lows are allways right so they are perfect. For a logical statement, being allways right equals perfection.
These concepts are the most basic pressupositions that you must make before you can know anything. Without pressuposing that things are what they are, you can't even say : I think, therefor I exist.
So they are the most basic concepts that must be concived by the most simple mind in order to qualify as mind at all.
Therefor the logical absolutes can and must be concivet by infinitely simple mind in order to be mind at all, and the proponents of TAG claim that they can ONLY be concived by infinitely complex mind!!!!
This is an error by a factor of infinity!
We can ignore the inumerable falacies in this argument we can grant the proponents of TAG everythink that they want in order to prove god, and in the conlusion of this argument, there is the biggest error imaginable.
They claim that the logical absolutes are transcendent and not dependant of the mind, and then that they claim that they are conceptual and dependant on the mind. No problem so far, give them that so they could dug their own grave deeper at the end.
Then they claim that the logical absolutes are perfect and can be cocived only by perfect mind.
At first it may not look as mindblowingly wrong as it is, unles you give it a thought.
What are the logical absolutes? They are officialy three lows, but can be reduced to two.
1. Low of identity : Things are what they are, and are not what they are not.
This is true in any imaginable hypothetical or real situations. Even if the univerce does not exist, it dosnt violate this low - It is what it is - a non existance, and it's not what it is not - an existant univerce.
2. Low of non contradiction : Things can not be what they are and what they are not at the same time.
This is rather awkward special case of the first low, and can be eliminated. Since things are not what they are not at all times, so they are not what they are not at the same time as when they are what they are, wich is allso at all times.
3. Low of Excluded Midle : A statement can be ether right or wrong. It can't be something in between, and it can't be both.
So this two or three lows are allways right so they are perfect. For a logical statement, being allways right equals perfection.
These concepts are the most basic pressupositions that you must make before you can know anything. Without pressuposing that things are what they are, you can't even say : I think, therefor I exist.
So they are the most basic concepts that must be concived by the most simple mind in order to qualify as mind at all.
Therefor the logical absolutes can and must be concivet by infinitely simple mind in order to be mind at all, and the proponents of TAG claim that they can ONLY be concived by infinitely complex mind!!!!
This is an error by a factor of infinity!
