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The future of the United Nations

arg-fallbackName="Estheria Quintessimo"/>
After thousands of years of almost constant wars... these days we have the United Nations to oversee global conflicts.

But there is a serious flaw which makes the United Nation not effective to act.

Made up from the human skulls and bones from TWO World Wars in which millions of peoples died,... The current UN is a left over relic based on a decades old global power base.

The flaw is the Security Council. A quick quote from wiki:
The Security Council is made up of 15 member states, consisting of 5 permanent members–China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States–and 10 non-permanent members, currently (with end of term date) Argentina (2014), Australia (2014), Azerbaijan (2013), Guatemala (2013), Luxembourg (2014), Morocco (2013), Pakistan (2013), Republic of Korea (2014), Rwanda (2014), Togo (2013).[18]
The five permanent members hold VETO power over substantive but not procedural resolutions allowing a permanent member to block adoption but not to block the debate of a resolution unacceptable to it. The ten temporary seats are held for two-year terms with member states voted in by the General Assembly on a regional basis. The presidency of the Security Council is rotated alphabetically each month.

It has been clear during many events during the last few decades,.. that the VETO power of the 5 permanent members is a problem. Even if it is not used,.. it will hold perhaps Security Council Member States back,... to propose a resolution,... as it will be vetoed down anyway.

Though atleast 3 of the 5 permanent members are considered to be democratic nations,.... This permanancy was constructed after WW2,... half a century ago. It was based on an after WW2 world. ... But much has changed since.

As a western person myself... I can see the problems in the UN. Having VETO power is extreemly usefull. Two 2 European countries have it,... but it means nothing if Russia and China VETO against your proposals. Perhaps we will see this soon in some Syria Resolution.

But I am also afraid to propose a change to the Security Council Rules. It is clear from my perspective... that a large part of the world does not embrace democracy in it's true sence (like in the USA or in many EU countries)

Suppose the UN would change their rules,... and it might perhaps someday give an advantage to religious based countries. For me... as an atheist this would be an absolute horror. But I can inmagine lots of religious based countries not really feeling much umph for the UN these days,.... with a lot of western democratic countires in the Security Council,... with VETO Power.

What to do?

What is the future of the UN?

Any thoughts on this?
 
arg-fallbackName="PAB"/>
Thanks for bringing this up. I've never looked into the UN before, and based on what you've outlined the VETO as well as permanent/non-permanant members seems problematic. Ill have to read up on it much more however.

I would like to point out though:

"a large part of the world does not embrace democracy in it's true sense (like in the USA or in many EU countries)"

The USA, or many EU countries i.e. UK and France could be said not to embrace democracy in its "true sense". Democracy is a relative and moving thing not a solid concept. For example in the past these countries were democratic despite not allowing women the vote or men who did not own property. The original principle of democracy is rule of the people. Democracy in these countries today despite universal suffrage is not rule of the people. It is commonly characterized as electing your dictator every 3-5 years. As being more oligarchical than democratic. Not only this but democracy in the workplace is non-existent, in all countries, as it contradicts our current capitalist system of private enterprise and ownership. But work, the economy, the means by which we produce wealth and necessities to survive should in my view, be open to democratic control just as the state, is in part, open to democracy.

Regards the question the future of the UN in total terms and its role today and in the future, i think it is necessary to understand not only its history. But what it is in real terms. Already it seems problematic that this body oversees global conflict but is fundamentally managed and influenced by 5 nations.
 
arg-fallbackName="Estheria Quintessimo"/>
I mean no disrespect.

But on my proposed,... the best is an outside linked blog?
No matter what the content of that blog,...

Nobody on this forum seems to have the capacity to think for themselves. This is about the 2nd or 3rd time I feel like this.

Please tell me what the purpose of this forum is. I have posted several honoust posts with fresh idea's I honoustly wanted a sincere opinion on... but all I get is vague foggy replies and out side links.
 
arg-fallbackName="Inferno"/>
Estheria Quintessimo said:
I mean no disrespect.

But on my proposed,... the best is an outside linked blog?
No matter what the content of that blog,...

Nobody on this forum seems to have the capacity to think for themselves. This is about the 2nd or 3rd time I feel like this.

Please tell me what the purpose of this forum is. I have posted several honoust posts with fresh idea's I honoustly wanted a sincere opinion on... but all I get is vague foggy replies and out side links.

If other people have already said it better than I ever could, why should I say the same thing? The message in the blog was fairly straight forward: Abolish the UN, we don't need it.

Also, it might be that your questions are the problem. Two of your previously stated questions were unintelligible, this one is simply one that doesn't interest a lot of people.

Lastly, PAB has responded to you, yet you ignored him?!?
 
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