Testimony

[mirandansa]

What does being supernaturally regenerated mean?

It's when God permanetly changes a person to be inclined towards what He wants.

How do you define "a person" in the first place? A person is what the brain does (when the brain sleeps, the person is temporarily obliterated; when the brain is injured, the personal memories might be destroyed; when the brain has a certain problem, the personality splits, etc.). And the brain is what the nature does. What changes a person is the flow of the nature. What "He" wants is what the nature wants.

It's the begining of a very personal relationship,

It's more accurately called psychological development. Have a look into Fowler's stages of Faith development.

and from that moment forward a man cannot go off and play and sin without being disciplined for it, from that moment forward God begins to deal with a man and to mold Him into Christ likeness.

Right, i know what you mean. I myself went through that.

 

[blood_pardon]

Actually, what you need to understand is how geographically restricted religion is. Haven't you seen maps of the world and how each religion tends to dominate parts of the world that it sprung up in and spread around. This demonstrates that all religions have to be taught and are not inherently known. It also demonstrates that the holy spirit can't communicate information to you unless you already know it, this should not be the case if god is a universal being.

What doesn't have to be taught? Nothing is inherently known.

Why are setting up limitations on the supernatural? Its almost as though because its not happening the way you think it ought to it musn't be true.

 

[Story]

Why are setting up limitations on the supernatural? Its almost as though because its not happening the way you think it ought to it musn't be true.

That's pretty much it.

The difference with you is that you don't expect it to work in anyway so whatever happens you can just say that it was it. Even if it isn't and it is a genuine coincidence. There needn't be coincidences in your metaphysical interpretation.

Nevermind that though, my specific problem is that it doesn't work in the way you understand it to work.

 

[blood_pardon]

It doesnt work in the way you understand it to work.

What doesnt?

 

[Story]

It doesnt work in the way you understand it to work.

What doesnt?

Everything

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

There's a lot of its there.

The limits that the supernatural has are apparently imposed upon it by itself. This holy spirit is apparently only powerful enough to work its magic for one continent about 2000 years ago. The rest had to be imposed through violence, land grabbing and politics.
But hey, if you can completely ignore that, as well as ignore the other religions that are still very much present, as well as the huge division within Christianity, sure you can chalk it up to the holy spirit.

But the only way you can do that, is by ignoring what is happening in the world.

 

[blood_pardon]

The limits that the supernatural has are apparently imposed upon it by itself. This holy spirit is apparently only powerful enough to work its magic for one continent about 2000 years ago. The rest had to be imposed through violence, land grabbing and politics.
But hey, if you can completely ignore that, as well as ignore the other religions that are still very much present, as well as the huge division within Christianity, sure you can chalk it up to the holy spirit.

But the only way you can do that, is by ignoring what is happening in the world.

What's happened is 1/3 of the worlds population now claims to be followers of this man Jesus Christ.

 

[blood_pardon]

The limits that the supernatural has are apparently imposed upon it by itself. This holy spirit is apparently only powerful enough to work its magic for one continent about 2000 years ago. The rest had to be imposed through violence, land grabbing and politics.
But hey, if you can completely ignore that, as well as ignore the other religions that are still very much present, as well as the huge division within Christianity, sure you can chalk it up to the holy spirit. But the only way you can do that, is by ignoring what is happening in the world.

1/3 of the world is now Christian.

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

What's happened is 1/3 of the worlds population now claims to be followers of this man Jesus Christ.

I like how you used a picture of a drooling idiot to represent yourself.

You seem to have missed the point of my post:

The limits that the supernatural has are apparently imposed upon it by itself. This holy spirit is apparently only powerful enough to work its magic for one continent about 2000 years ago. The rest had to be imposed through violence, land grabbing and politics.

Then you go on to actually prove my point:

But hey, if you can completely ignore that, as well as ignore the other religions that are still very much present, as well as the huge division within Christianity, sure you can chalk it up to the holy spirit.

So well done.

 

[Zoten001]

1/3 of the world is now Christian.

And this is supposed to matter how? I wouldn't care if 99% of the world was Xian, I'd still tell you that you were wrong.

Edit: For crappy grammar.

 

[Anachronous Rex]

The limits that the supernatural has are apparently imposed upon it by itself. This holy spirit is apparently only powerful enough to work its magic for one continent about 2000 years ago. The rest had to be imposed through violence, land grabbing and politics.
But hey, if you can completely ignore that, as well as ignore the other religions that are still very much present, as well as the huge division within Christianity, sure you can chalk it up to the holy spirit.

But the only way you can do that, is by ignoring what is happening in the world.

What's happened is 1/3 of the worlds population now claims to be followers of this man Jesus Christ.

And Zoroastrianism was once the most powerful religion in the world. Islam has historically had a larger following then Christianity and is currently growing faster, whereas Christianity has stagnated. The fastest growing group within Christianity is Mormonism, which is as much Christian as Christianity is Jewish.

If your interpretation is to be believed, then apparently god is switching sides, and has done so several times in the past.

 

[blood_pardon]

I did misread that flying skeptic. lol @ irony of me posting the drooling fool

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

I did misread that flying skeptic. lol @ irony of me posting the drooling fool

's Alright though. ;-)
It's a good pic, btw. It's fukken saved like a Calvinist on his bare knees.
Also, just call me Bastard instead of skeptic. I am a bastard, after all.