Dragan Glas
Well-Known Member
Greetings,
The article you cite, although raising a valid concern, is anecdotal in nature.
Within the first few sentences, he mentions a friend who died, before commenting:
A article - to which both a commenter, and the author, link - is not available. However, searching the AJP website, offers this 2004 study of suicidal ideation in clinically depressed patients [N=371] by religious affiliation.
It should be noted that, given that many of the subjects in the study were already diagnosed as clinically depressed, this clearly introduces a bias into the study.
Further, the number of affiliated individuals [N=305] clearly indicates that - on a purely numerical comparison - suicide attempts amongst the religiously-affiliated outnumber those of the non-affiliated.
Having said that, the following is important to note:
The study goes on to note that:
Another study - a 2005/2008 Gallup poll - also shows a correlation between suicide and non-affiliation, although the reasons why people commit suicide are unknown due to the fact that people take their own life for many different reasons.
Bearing in mind that this is a poll, rather than a proper study, any conclusions are fraught with danger.
Kindest regards,
James
The article you cite, although raising a valid concern, is anecdotal in nature.
Within the first few sentences, he mentions a friend who died, before commenting:
This is similar to saying that, if you know someone has died, but don't know the manner of their death, suicide's a possibility. It leads to the false belief that suicide is more prevalent than it actually is.While I can’t say for certain that his death was suicide, I can’t rule it out.
A article - to which both a commenter, and the author, link - is not available. However, searching the AJP website, offers this 2004 study of suicidal ideation in clinically depressed patients [N=371] by religious affiliation.
It should be noted that, given that many of the subjects in the study were already diagnosed as clinically depressed, this clearly introduces a bias into the study.
Further, the number of affiliated individuals [N=305] clearly indicates that - on a purely numerical comparison - suicide attempts amongst the religiously-affiliated outnumber those of the non-affiliated.
Having said that, the following is important to note:
It should be noted that suicide is statistically more prevalent in the young (teens, and those in their twenties) than older people. Also, given that this study is in America, coming out as non-believers tends to result in ostracization by one's family (not to mention the community ("church")) - which would have a major impact on psychological health.Subjects with no religious affiliation were more often lifetime suicide attempters, reported more suicidal ideation, and were more likely to have first-degree relatives who had committed suicide than religiously affiliated subjects.
The religiously affiliated and unaffiliated subjects did not differ in terms of gender, race, education, or income. Religiously unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, and less often had children. Religiously affiliated subjects reported a more family-oriented social network, reflected in more time spent with first-degree relatives. In contrast, most unaffiliated subjects (74.3%) reported more nonfamilial relationships (friends and others) (Table 1).
The study goes on to note that:
Note the above!The final model with suicidal ideation as the outcome variable and age, aggression, responsibility to family, religious affiliation, and moral objections to suicide as the independent variables revealed that high aggression scores, low moral objections to suicide, and younger age were significantly and independently associated with suicidal ideation. Religious affiliation and responsibility to family were not (Table 4).
Another study - a 2005/2008 Gallup poll - also shows a correlation between suicide and non-affiliation, although the reasons why people commit suicide are unknown due to the fact that people take their own life for many different reasons.
Bearing in mind that this is a poll, rather than a proper study, any conclusions are fraught with danger.
Kindest regards,
James