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Quran vs Science (islamic creationist)

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derkvanl

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arg-fallbackName="derkvanl"/>
I came accros this video and thought it would be a good idea to share here.



It also had this link in the sidebar. The islamic creationists website I suppose.
http://islamworld.net/docs/it-is-truth/Index.html

And for the interested theres a lot of reading available in english.
http://islamworld.net/
 
arg-fallbackName="Japeo"/>
Re: Quran vs Science (islamic creationist)http://forums.leagueof

Let's see:
- The quote he uses about the movements of the sun and moon - Sura 21:33 - speaks of the orbits of these planetos (wanderers), not the rotation of the sun. Every ancient culture, through the necessity of agriculture, had an intimate knowledge of the movements of the heavens.
- Wow! They knew about the two types of water! This of course involves the complex and uber-scientific process of tasting!
- We have created every living creature from water!?! I must have missed that day.
- It's interesting that the Quran talks of all these animals endemic to the Middle-East. Where's the kangaroo? the penguin? the beaver? hmmm...

Overall, this guy is a passionate speaker. It looked and acted like an southern bapist audience.
 
arg-fallbackName="nemesiss"/>
what seem to happen lately and we also saw our muslim-creationist post are argument that the qu'ran is a science book. its the same nonsense christians bring up.
muslims are a bit harder to debate because of certain points.
1 -most have never read the qu'ran
2 - the argument is made that you should only read it in arabic, and since alot do not read arabic we gotten back to point one.
3 - its written like some sort of poetry so it can be interpertated in many ways.

but from the experience with christian creationists its not that difficult to defeat islamic creationists since they basically belief the same belief.
 
arg-fallbackName="creamcheese"/>
I had to stop watching after he made his first point... The bit about 'the unknown machine', and how the atheist will tell you about the maker of this machine.

He automatically assumes that any intelligence other than our own must be supernatural...

Just wait, when the UFOs arrive, this guy will be prostrating himself before the aliens. [I'll be busy leading the resistance movement against our alien oppressors]
 
arg-fallbackName="Salv"/>
I would ask him for some more predictions. If all this science exists in the Quran, then let us know about it before the scientists do? Like the TOE.

It's too bad that their "science" is so vague and even if they can somehow bend it to adhere to the science it still tells us nothing at all.
 
arg-fallbackName="GenesForLife"/>
I suspect it is typical theological pornography, too bad the moron doesn't even mention about the Quranic "fact" that men are produced from "a gushing fluid that originates between the ribs and the loins"

Now that is empirically testable indeed, let him be castrated to verify the hypothesis. :mrgreen:

Hello, by the way.
 
arg-fallbackName="Case"/>
He speaks of science as if it was a recent invention. Odd.

Also, the idea of an original element predates the quran by a mere 1200 years. Among which, unsurprisingly, water (the idea was published by the divine creator better known by his Greek name "Thales", 600 BC, and who knows who he got it from). So not only is it incorrect, it's also plagiarized.

I won't even get into the 'why obscenely vague statements don't qualify as knowledge' debate. Seriously, that big bang thing was just too much.
 
arg-fallbackName="Doc."/>
I really wonder if these kind of people believe what they say themselves.
 
arg-fallbackName="SarahAhmed"/>
Quran vs Science ..islam is provin almost every thing is write what writtien in quran and know science is doint it..
 
arg-fallbackName="Inferno"/>
SarahAhmed said:
Quran vs Science ..islam is provin almost every thing is write what writtien in quran and know science is doint it..
Click to expand...

The Quran seems to be an especially good spelling textbook.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,

This is no different than the "prophecies" of Nostradamus.

People think - believe - that he was referring to this or that historical event, after the fact: the classic post hoc ipso propter hoc fallacy.

Kindest regards,

James
 
arg-fallbackName="Deleted member 619"/>
They sure do shoot well in Texas...
 
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