Plymouth U.K. shooting - slippery slope argument in spades.

[BoganUSAFFLClerk]

In the much touted British system people have said it should be copied world wide. Yet even in this shooting will still continue regardless if they go through the legal route or the illegal route in order to acquire. I have heard many people argue that the slippery slope argument is not justified in this regard that gun controls won't go any more strict because they won't need it. Clearly other people are making the argument that gun controls should be reformed and typically that means more restrictions under the context of the U.K. not making them less strict.

In short another example of a failure of government in operating the system they have suggested and created. Isn't the first won't be the last.

 

[*SD*]

The UK Legislation and licencing system does need reform, but for different reasons. I haven't had a chance to look into the particulars of this case in much detail yet, but my understanding is he used a shotgun, which almost always falls under Section 2 of the licencing system. Section 2 certificates are comparatively easy to acquire, vs Section 1.

S2 basically works in that when you apply, the default answer has to be 'yes' unless the licencing dept can prove you're disqualified or otherwise unfit. Once granted, you can acquire as many S2 (essentially just shotguns) items as you want, provided you have adequate storage and there is no restriction on ammunition quantity you can possess or acquire.

With S1 this is practically all reversed. I won't go into it unless it becomes central to the discussion, though.

I also understand his S2 cert was revoked at some point, and then re-issued. I don't know why exactly. Need to read more into it.

 

[BoganUSAFFLClerk]

The UK Legislation and licencing system does need reform, but for different reasons. I haven't had a chance to look into the particulars of this case in much detail yet, but my understanding is he used a shotgun, which almost always falls under Section 2 of the licencing system. Section 2 certificates are comparatively easy to acquire, vs Section 1.

S2 basically works in that when you apply, the default answer has to be 'yes' unless the licencing dept can prove you're disqualified or otherwise unfit. Once granted, you can acquire as many S2 (essentially just shotguns) items as you want, provided you have adequate storage and there is no restriction on ammunition quantity you can possess or acquire.

With S1 this is practically all reversed. I won't go into it unless it becomes central to the discussion, though.

I also understand his S2 cert was revoked at some point, and then re-issued. I don't know why exactly. Need to read more into it.

It was revoked due to him attending anger management. Clearly the guy was off his rocker.

 

[BoganUSAFFLClerk]

Seems like something similar in relation to MSD where the kid had the federal authorities called on him not to mention the local authorities talked to him. Under Florida law ERPO they could have taken the firearm legally from him at the time. He was visited ~30 times by authorities and yet they chose to do nothing. The system is broke and only reinforces my distrust of the government. @*SD*