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xxdjsethxx

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Ok I have tried looking around to see if I could see if this has already been done but have yet to find any sources showing that it has for this use.

This idea would be used for Scuba Diving Gear which could allow unlimited diving possibilities.

Now I will admit I am not a scientist so this was just an idea I tossed in my head =P So any suggestions or thoughts are welcomed.
The idea is to convert Water to Oxygen via a system which would then store the Oxygen for the Scuba Diver to use. Which in tern could give unlimited diving without needing to use any type of device to add Oxygen in directly. Of course you would want to have a reserve which was pre-filled with a amount of air to allow as a backup if anything was to happen. I am not sure how small a device like this could even be made to be. I did read this part on Converting water to HHO - hydrogen an oxygen gas. Now sure if the same could be applied or just altered.
To get hydrogen and oxygen gas (HHO) from water you need to do two things.

Firstly you need to build a hydrogen generator which will enable you to separate the water into it's to elements (hydrogen + oxygen).

A hydrogen generator is a device which is essentially an electrolysis chamber which is completely sealed with an anode and cathode inside.

Electrolysis is where you pass an electrical current through an electrolyte causing the positive and negative atoms within the electrolyte to separate and be pulled towards the positive cathode and negative anode.

So to convert water to HHO you need to fill your hydrogen generator with water and a catalyst (bicarbonate of soda works well or there are various other catalysts as well), the catalyst will make the water more reactive and help the reaction. The water is the electrolyte.

You then pass a 12v current through the hydrogen generator (remember you have postive and negative terminals inside the generator) this will cause the water to bubble.

These bubbles are hydrogen and oxygen. The negatively charged hydrogen will be drawn to the anode and the oxygen to the cathode. The cathode should be thicker than the anode as the oxygen will cause it to erode - even if you use stainless steel.
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Now this was used for HHO for a car wise, but I am just curious on other methods which could allow this to be used directly for Air Supply.

If this has already been invented (which I have yet to find it, at least being used in Scuba Diving gear) then bah!
The other issue would be how would this work related towards Salt Water?

So any ideas?
 
arg-fallbackName="Sando"/>
Can you breathe HHO? I've heard it's harmful...

Anyway, I suspect it would be more of a hassle to swim around with the catalyst, the batteries and the generator than to just use normal diving equipment. But, I know nothing about this kinda stuff :p
 
arg-fallbackName="xxdjsethxx"/>
well I wasn't meaning using HHO, I was giving an example how they would use to break down Water to HHO, and possible a process to do about the same which would just be for Oxygen it self.

And yea the entire package it would take to do this might not be good idea right now, maybe in the future once better abilities come about?
As I said it was an Idea =x
 
arg-fallbackName="Master_Ghost_Knight"/>
:facepalm: Fisrtly HHO is a cham anacronim for Water (H2O). Made up to make a scam less understandable. What you do get from electrolisis of water is H2 and O2 (twice as much H2 as O2). The seriousness of the taught ends on HHO. And you deserve a facepalm for that :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Moving on, ok you can convert water into oxigen, how much bateries would it take to make something even worth mentioning? An what would be the rate of production? (not much and bateries are heavy) You would be better of to take an extra botle.

Anyways how would you make sure that you would split H2 from O2 gases in 2 difrent storing compartments?
(or just throw the H2 overboard). It is not a very goo idea to breath H2, specialy mixed with O2, not a very safe endeavour.

So No, not a good idea.
 
arg-fallbackName="Master_Ghost_Knight"/>
Yes there are forms of rebreathers and the mentioned solution of colecting the disolved oxigen in the water like a fish. They are still unpraticable. Carying a rebreather, not a very good idea (they are not praticularly... portable).
 
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Also for future reference. You won't be able to apply for a patant if you've made a public announcment of your invention. So if you have any future gold mines, avoid posting it on forums/youtube etc until after you've got a patant, to stop yourself getting screwed.
 
arg-fallbackName="CupOfWater"/>
It would be possible. But you need one hell of a battery! Maybe in the future, when better batteries are inventet, it can be possible. You need alot of oxygen to breathe...
 
arg-fallbackName="aeroeng314"/>
It would be possible. But you need one hell of a battery! Maybe in the future, when better batteries are inventet, it can be possible. You need alot of oxygen to breathe...
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Perhaps possible, but never practical. The amount of energy required to break those bonds is far too great to ever make it worthwhile. Of course there's also the issue of pressurizing the gas once you generate it and mixing in enough nitrogen so you don't poison yourself.
 
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