devilsadvocate
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Ok, so it's only fair to point out right off the bat that I'm quite ignorant of economy and what I'm about to present is literally arm-chair economics. As such, it's possible that I'm pulling Dunning-Kruger's in the most embarrassing way. On the other hand, I think there are plenty of false internalized concepts of economy that are concealed from our view by virtue of being so integrated into our thinking.
I've been perplexed by how do global recessions and depressions happen in ordinary circumstances. It's understandable that there is economic downturn in times of war, in face of forces of nature or when natural resources we depend on become unavailable because of our own practises. But often downturns do not have any such real world explanation. This late recession has been blamed on the banks giving out risky mortgages, and when the loans started to default and estate prices started to snowball down, everyone was losing money. (for a good short explanation of the credit crisis, watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_LWm6_6tA .) This in turn meant that banks were wary of giving loans and consumers were not buying products anymore, which lead to vicious cycle of decreased production and bankruptcies of manufacturers and retailers, and more consumers losing their jobs and hence even poorer markets.
The problem for me is the above gives only an appearance of explanation, of which acceptance depends on a mind that is too accustomed to thinking in terms of money and economy that the conception acts as a veil to hide the simple questions:
So, money got shuffled around in careless manner, but what of that? Did something in the real world actually change? How does exchange of numbers on bank accounts make the world so poor that it leads to real and tangible suffering of many? This is perplexing since all the resources of the world, the technology and the labour, are still available to the same degree they were before the recession.
The explanation surely cannot be that we simply ran out of money, since moneys whole conception and existence depends on us. Money is an artificial tool of trade, conceived and collectively accepted by us to make trade of goods and services easier. It's the oil in the machine that makes it go smoother, not the machine itself. Ultimately what we trade is products and services made of natural resources and by our labour - Availability of which neither changes during recession.
Likewise, economy is only exchange and distribution of resources - There seems to me be a widespread misunderstanding that somehow by simply trading and keeping trade going we are increasing our wealth. It is true that we increase our well-being by trading what we value less to things we value more, and it is also true that exchange allows specialization and ultimately more efficient use of labour. However, we have to be careful not to equate this into the ideal that the very act of exchange is what is generating wealth (resources, well-being), instead of enabling it to certain degree. In any case, recession doesn't hold any special powers to stop people from exchanging goods for their own benefit, so the blanket explanation "trade is slowing down" fails.
Another misconception I've found out to be plentiful is giving economy agency. This can lead to defeatist mindset like "Economy is just really bad right now". Are we to believe we are so psychotic and apathetic, that when what is our own construct and absolutely dependent on us (the economy) gets into a tantrum, we are completely at it's mercy as if it had mind and intentions of it's own?
So how do, assuming what I wrote above isn't complete bollocks, recessions actually happen?
I've been perplexed by how do global recessions and depressions happen in ordinary circumstances. It's understandable that there is economic downturn in times of war, in face of forces of nature or when natural resources we depend on become unavailable because of our own practises. But often downturns do not have any such real world explanation. This late recession has been blamed on the banks giving out risky mortgages, and when the loans started to default and estate prices started to snowball down, everyone was losing money. (for a good short explanation of the credit crisis, watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_LWm6_6tA .) This in turn meant that banks were wary of giving loans and consumers were not buying products anymore, which lead to vicious cycle of decreased production and bankruptcies of manufacturers and retailers, and more consumers losing their jobs and hence even poorer markets.
The problem for me is the above gives only an appearance of explanation, of which acceptance depends on a mind that is too accustomed to thinking in terms of money and economy that the conception acts as a veil to hide the simple questions:
So, money got shuffled around in careless manner, but what of that? Did something in the real world actually change? How does exchange of numbers on bank accounts make the world so poor that it leads to real and tangible suffering of many? This is perplexing since all the resources of the world, the technology and the labour, are still available to the same degree they were before the recession.
The explanation surely cannot be that we simply ran out of money, since moneys whole conception and existence depends on us. Money is an artificial tool of trade, conceived and collectively accepted by us to make trade of goods and services easier. It's the oil in the machine that makes it go smoother, not the machine itself. Ultimately what we trade is products and services made of natural resources and by our labour - Availability of which neither changes during recession.
Likewise, economy is only exchange and distribution of resources - There seems to me be a widespread misunderstanding that somehow by simply trading and keeping trade going we are increasing our wealth. It is true that we increase our well-being by trading what we value less to things we value more, and it is also true that exchange allows specialization and ultimately more efficient use of labour. However, we have to be careful not to equate this into the ideal that the very act of exchange is what is generating wealth (resources, well-being), instead of enabling it to certain degree. In any case, recession doesn't hold any special powers to stop people from exchanging goods for their own benefit, so the blanket explanation "trade is slowing down" fails.
Another misconception I've found out to be plentiful is giving economy agency. This can lead to defeatist mindset like "Economy is just really bad right now". Are we to believe we are so psychotic and apathetic, that when what is our own construct and absolutely dependent on us (the economy) gets into a tantrum, we are completely at it's mercy as if it had mind and intentions of it's own?
So how do, assuming what I wrote above isn't complete bollocks, recessions actually happen?