Homosexuality and the "Taboo Trinity"

[ImprobableJoe]

Wrong - and I think I already agreed to this.

Naw, a mean pm wouldn't make me happy but I wouldn't mind getting back to incest :?

Would the pedophile be wrong even if he never actually managed to rape a toddler? Isn't believing it is a good idea wrong on its own, even if you never manage to act on it?

This IS to do with incest, BTW... because the plan is to find a place where we agree, and show you why I'm using the same reasoning to come to a conclusion that we DON'T agree on.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Is it wrong that I found this to be hilarious?

Not really... this is serious shit, and it is easier to deal with if you throw a little black humor on it every so often...

 

[Aught3]

Would the pedophile be wrong even if he never actually managed to rape a toddler? Isn't believing it is a good idea wrong on its own, even if you never manage to act on it?

Yep, I can agree that it would be wrong to hold that idea.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Yep, I can agree that it would be wrong to hold that idea.

And the reason it is wrong to hold certain ideas is that acting on those ideas can cause harm to other people, yourself, or both? And that we would say that anyone holding those ideas are wrong, and that something about them is screwed up because they hold those ideas?

 

[Aught3]

Believing that it is a good idea to rape a child is wrong because if the person acted on that belief there would be unacceptable harm done to other people. Yeah, that sounds okay.

 

[Canto]

The "ewww!" factor shouldn't be discounted: it is normal, and there for a reason.

That goes for step-siblings as well. If your mom marries a guy with a kid your age, you shouldn't start getting it on... unless you're already grown up, and she's hot.

Is there a source for it being "normal"? Is there a source for it being "there for a reason"? Joe, you say a lot of things and never provide information backing them up and honestly, its getting a bit annoying.

We all know of the problems that can come from reproduction in this regard, but does it harm the two people involved to have a consenting sexual relationship?

As I place sex and love in the same catagory while devaluing marriage as a necessity/facilitator for both, I really dont see a huge problem with it. I was dating my now step sister before our parents got together, fortunately our relationship didnt progress beyond simple dating so we didnt have to deal with any issues (We still go out now and then as a psuedo couple, but neither of us are interested in a serious relationship).

Regardless, homosexuality does NOT open the door for beastiality. Beastiality is not a productive relationship that can bear fruit (even with adoption, the animal can not raise and educate a child, provide income to the household, or provide care for the partner in old age, illness, or anything else). Homosexuality does not preclude any of these things from happening.

I would say there is some possibility that incestual relationships would find this to be somewhat of a door opener, but I'm not certain and dont wish to get into it.


And the simple answer to anyone claiming that "homosexual marriages will allow x to happen" is Straight marriage opened the door for homosexual marriage.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Is there a source for it being "normal"? Is there a source for it being "there for a reason"? Joe, you say a lot of things and never provide information backing them up and honestly, its getting a bit annoying.

So feel free to never, ever, EVER read one of my posts again. Otherwise, your snippy little comments are just personal harassment.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Believing that it is a good idea to rape a child is wrong because if the person acted on that belief there would be unacceptable harm done to other people. Yeah, that sounds okay.

So, would that also mean that there's something defective in the thinking of someone who thinks it is OK to rape children? If you and I have the "right idea" and they have the "wrong idea" then at some point something went wrong with their brain to make them embrace child rape as a good idea.

Still with me?

 

[Aught3]

Yep, okay.

 

[Canto]

Fuck it, not worth it.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Yep, okay.

Sorry it has taken so long for me to respond... real life gets in the way sometimes, and broken laptops don't help much... read the blog, this week there is punch, pie, chips and dip. :lol:

To condense the argument somewhat, my point was that we develop socially, in certain specific ways. Our parents are in charge, our siblings are our close confidants and allies, other children are peers and sometimes enemies, and so on. If someone considers their parents, children, or siblings to be appropriate sexual partners, that would seem to signify a breakdown in those natural/healthy roles that other people play in your life as you go through healthy social development.

I'm not saying that sexual contact with a sibling is "wrong" as much as I am saying that the fact that someone would consider it can be seen as a sign that something else went wrong in their development... which is why I spent the time I did in establishing that pedophilia is not only a wrong act towards others, but also a sign of stunted or incorrect mental development in the person willing to commit that act.