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*Four videos that show being Agnostic on the historicity of Jesus is the valid default position.The 5th video is about the archeological evidence that casts doubt on the Old Testament.
Keep in mind that mainstream scholarship thought that the Biblical Patriarchs were historical.Thomas L Thompson changed that line of thinking in 1974 with "The History of the Patriarchal Narratives".
Keep in mind also Islam needs an historical Jesus, otherwise it makes Muhammad a liar.
Take the time to review the works of these historians and archeologists to make up your own mind.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MclBbZUFSag
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B5MUUP4l6l4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzrIHdN9O7M
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9XK3DcQe9s
Additional information:
Jesus 6 BCE-33? CE
There's no contemporary sources for Jesus during his supposed lifetime.
Pauline Epistles 51-58 CE
Only 7 out of 13 letters of Paul are considered nonpseudographical.Paul is not a witness to a living Jesus, but through revelation.
Rome Sacking of Judea 70 CE
The Gospels are labeled by Church tradition, but are from unknown Greek educated writers.They make the same translation mistakes found in the Greek version of the Old Testament called the Septuagint.
Mark 65-70? CE
Matthew 75-80? CE
Luke 75-90? CE
John 85-125? CE
The Gospels are Euhemerization (myths made into history) to control doctrine.
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/euhemerization
Here is an example of prophecy being filled using the Greek Old Testament translation.
Mark, and Luke has Jesus on a Colt (young Horse).
John has Jesus on a young Donkey.
Matthew which is the 2nd Gospel written has Jesus on a Donkey, and a Colt at the same time (which is comical).
Zechariah 9:9 (Greek Septuagint translation)
lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Zechariah 9:9 (original Hebrew)
lowly, and riding on a Donkey, even a colt the, foal of an Donkey.
The Hebrew version is being poetic.
The Greek translation has the mistake of switching out "even" for "and".
Matthew 21:7
7 And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon.
The author of Matthew used the Septuagint's mistaken translation to fulfill prophecy.
The only mention of Jesus outside the New Testament in the 1st century is by the historian Josephus. Josephus mentions Jesus twice, but they have red flags of forgery.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/testimonium.html
Josephus in Testimonium Flavianum Antiquities of the Jews 93-94 CE mentions Jesus,and as the Christ.The wording of the passage makes Josephus a pious Jew sound like a Christian, and does not fit his style of writing,suggesting a later forged adaptation.First qouted by Eusebius (315 CE),but not mentioned by earlier apologists Justin Martyr,Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, and *Origen (140-230 CE).The passage conflicts with Josephus's own belief that Vespasian is the Messiah (Title).
Chapter 18.3.3
http://m.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/works/files/ant-18.htm
In context of chapters 18.3.2 & 18:3.4, you can see chapter 18.3.3 interupts the flow of the texts.In the words of David Fitzgerald "It's like a Britney Spears video in the middle of a funeral".
Chapter 20.9.1
http://m.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/works/files/ant-20.htm
The James passage in Josephus's antiquities 20.9.1 "The brother of Jesus,who was called Christ,whose name was James".This is interpolation using Matthew 1:16 "Who is called Christ".In 20.9.4 of antiquities Josephus writes "James is brother of Jesus Bar Damneus".
Earl Doherty (Author of 'The Jesus Puzzle')"A good case can be made for saying that Josephus wrote nothing about Jesus and was probably unaware of any such figure."Apologist
*Origen mentions this passage,but not the other.
John Remsburg,in his 1909 book 'The Christ',stated:"To identify the James of Josephus with James the Just,the brother of Jesus, is to reject the accepted history of the primitive church which declares that James the Just died in 69 CE, 7 years after the James of Josephus was condemned to death by the Sanhedrin."
Josephus continues:
"... Albinus complied with what they said, and wrote in anger to Ananus, and threatened that he would bring him to punishment for what he had done; on which king Agrippa took the high priesthood from him, when he had ruled but three months, and made Jesus, the son of Damneus, high priest."
Josephus tells us precisely who James is the brother of – Jesus bar Damneus!
Here are other nonBiblical references used by Apologists to cite Jesus's historicity.
Tacitus in 116 CE mentions Christus (title),and Christians (cult).This is evidence of Christians,not evidence of Jesus the Christ.Search "Tacitus forgery"
See video @ 108:00 mark for deeper scrutiny of the Tacitus passage.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HMyudP5z2Xw
Pliny the Younger in 110 CE mentions that "Christians were singing a hymn to Christ as to a god".There were several people claiming to be a Messiah/Christ back in those times.
Suetonius in 121 CE mentions Chrestus (personal name),and Christians,and he maybe repeating what others have told him about this cult,or cults.
Lucian of Samosata(circa 125 - 180 CE)A second-century satirist named Lucian wrote that the basis for the Christian sect was a “man who was crucified in Palestine,”but this is merely repeating what Christians believed in the second century.Lucian does not mention Jesus by name.This reference is too late to be considered more direct historical evidence.
No work of Thallus survives.Here is a quote about him from Richard Carrier:"We know next to nothing about Thallus or his works.We don't even know if he wrote only one book or several.The only information we have about him,even his name,comes entirely from Christian apologetic sources beginning in the late 2nd century,and that information is plagued with problems."
Bart Ehrman,Did Jesus Exist?:"The Talmud is a collection of disparate materials from early Judaism.Most of the material relates to the early rabbis.The collection was put together long after the days of Jesus."The Talmud was put together approximately between the 3rd-5th centuries
Here is what is written in Baraitha Bab. Sanhedrin 43a, probably second century:
On the eve of Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy. Any one who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf." But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of the Passover! - Ulla retorted: Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defence could be made? Was he not a _Mesith_ [enticer], concerning him Scripture says, _Neither shalt though spare, neither shalt thou conceal him?_ With Yeshu however it was different, for he was connected with the government for royalty [i.e., influential]. Our Rabbis taught: Yeshu had five disciples, Matthai, Nakai, Nezer, Buni, and Todah.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/talmud.html
According to Michael Paulkovich (No Meek Messiah,2012,pp.199-200) there were up to 146
historians/writers (Silent Writers) during,or shortly after the supposed time of Jesus that did not mention him.
42 contemporary writers silent about Jesus while other wanna be Messiahs get mentioned.
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/jesus5.htm
Mara Bar-Serapion(circa 73 CE-?)Fragment of a personal letter from a Syrian named Mara Bar-Serapion to his son in prison that mentions that the Jews of that time had killed their “wise king.”The NT claims that the Romans,not the Jews,killed Jesus.The Jews had killed other leaders;for example,the Essene Teacher of Righteousness.If this truly is a report of a historical event rather than the passing on of folklore,it could have been a reference to someone else.
Celsus:A late 2nd century Greek philosopher was an opponent of Early Christianity.He is known for his literary work "The True Word" (C.177 CE) which survives exclusively in early Church apologist Origen's (184-254 CE) quotations from it in "Contra Celsum".This is too late to be evidence of Jesus Christ.
Was Jesus just a celestial deity in gnosticism from the belief of hidden messages in the Old Testament?
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gnosticism
This deity was called the "Logos" by Philo.This revelation derived from the OT had many monickers like "The First Born of God", "The Image of God", and "The Shadow of God" to name a few.
See "Logos", and "Pneumatology"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo's_view_of_God
Here is a remnent of a Gnostic Jesus in the Epistles.
1 Corinthians 2:6-8
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
*Who are the "rulers of this age"?
Why would the "rulers of this age" not crucify Christ if they knew it would give Man the chance to have eternal life in Heaven?
The Romans if they knew would not object for a chance at eternal life.
The "rulers of this age" were Demons of Gnostic belief.
"Brother of the Lord"
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldTEXucN7p4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVMK2P5BMXY
There were many preChristian saviour deities that went through a passion to have victory over death.
Here is one of the earliest.
The ancient Sumerian Goddess Inanna traveled to the Underworld.She was cursed into being a corpse then hung on a hook.After 3days/nights she was resurrected by life giving water and plants.
Here are the verse numbers, and translation (link) of the epic poem that predate Christ by at least 2,000 years.
164-172
173-175
246-253
273-281
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr141.htm
* Why do people believe?
Our Brains are evolved for learning, and we seek patterns in the enviroment.We have built in reward centers that are purposed for survival.These reward centers can be tricked to either cause false beliefs, and, or detrimental abuses.
For an exampleeople that work themselves up emotionally mistake higher levels of neurochemical production as being touched by the Holy Spirit.Dopamine causes feelings of euphoria, making sense of things that normally do not, and can add a wide range of hallucinations.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=axrywDP9Ii0
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2T-7_g6yUU
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ukFjH9odsXw
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DwNPTP40yy8
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUkrPNxLau0
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XAhmpVqbw_Y
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LWYwckFrksg
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sB9sTz_gyU
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b_6-iVz1R0o
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YqAwfv3HYGo
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3d33lQjZUeg
*Theists do not care about Earth.Their scripture says that God is going to make a new Earth.Why take care of the old when new is on the way?
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65%3A16-17&version=KJV
Isaiah 65:16-17
16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21%3A1-4&version=KJV
Revelation 21:1-4
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
http://quran.com/14/47-52
Quran 14:47-52
[It will be] on the Day the earth will be replaced by another earth, and the heavens [as well], and all creatures will come out before Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
And you will see the criminals that Day bound together in shackles,
Their garments of liquid pitch and their faces covered by the Fire.
*Theists believe people are born knowing God.
Romans 1:18-21
God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Check out contradictions in the Bible & Koran plus more in this link:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GDf2-EfMRAM
Keep in mind that mainstream scholarship thought that the Biblical Patriarchs were historical.Thomas L Thompson changed that line of thinking in 1974 with "The History of the Patriarchal Narratives".
Keep in mind also Islam needs an historical Jesus, otherwise it makes Muhammad a liar.
Take the time to review the works of these historians and archeologists to make up your own mind.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MclBbZUFSag
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B5MUUP4l6l4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzrIHdN9O7M
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9XK3DcQe9s
Additional information:
Jesus 6 BCE-33? CE
There's no contemporary sources for Jesus during his supposed lifetime.
Pauline Epistles 51-58 CE
Only 7 out of 13 letters of Paul are considered nonpseudographical.Paul is not a witness to a living Jesus, but through revelation.
Rome Sacking of Judea 70 CE
The Gospels are labeled by Church tradition, but are from unknown Greek educated writers.They make the same translation mistakes found in the Greek version of the Old Testament called the Septuagint.
Mark 65-70? CE
Matthew 75-80? CE
Luke 75-90? CE
John 85-125? CE
The Gospels are Euhemerization (myths made into history) to control doctrine.
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/euhemerization
Here is an example of prophecy being filled using the Greek Old Testament translation.
Mark, and Luke has Jesus on a Colt (young Horse).
John has Jesus on a young Donkey.
Matthew which is the 2nd Gospel written has Jesus on a Donkey, and a Colt at the same time (which is comical).
Zechariah 9:9 (Greek Septuagint translation)
lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Zechariah 9:9 (original Hebrew)
lowly, and riding on a Donkey, even a colt the, foal of an Donkey.
The Hebrew version is being poetic.
The Greek translation has the mistake of switching out "even" for "and".
Matthew 21:7
7 And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon.
The author of Matthew used the Septuagint's mistaken translation to fulfill prophecy.
The only mention of Jesus outside the New Testament in the 1st century is by the historian Josephus. Josephus mentions Jesus twice, but they have red flags of forgery.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/testimonium.html
Josephus in Testimonium Flavianum Antiquities of the Jews 93-94 CE mentions Jesus,and as the Christ.The wording of the passage makes Josephus a pious Jew sound like a Christian, and does not fit his style of writing,suggesting a later forged adaptation.First qouted by Eusebius (315 CE),but not mentioned by earlier apologists Justin Martyr,Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, and *Origen (140-230 CE).The passage conflicts with Josephus's own belief that Vespasian is the Messiah (Title).
Chapter 18.3.3
http://m.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/works/files/ant-18.htm
In context of chapters 18.3.2 & 18:3.4, you can see chapter 18.3.3 interupts the flow of the texts.In the words of David Fitzgerald "It's like a Britney Spears video in the middle of a funeral".
Chapter 20.9.1
http://m.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/works/files/ant-20.htm
The James passage in Josephus's antiquities 20.9.1 "The brother of Jesus,who was called Christ,whose name was James".This is interpolation using Matthew 1:16 "Who is called Christ".In 20.9.4 of antiquities Josephus writes "James is brother of Jesus Bar Damneus".
Earl Doherty (Author of 'The Jesus Puzzle')"A good case can be made for saying that Josephus wrote nothing about Jesus and was probably unaware of any such figure."Apologist
*Origen mentions this passage,but not the other.
John Remsburg,in his 1909 book 'The Christ',stated:"To identify the James of Josephus with James the Just,the brother of Jesus, is to reject the accepted history of the primitive church which declares that James the Just died in 69 CE, 7 years after the James of Josephus was condemned to death by the Sanhedrin."
Josephus continues:
"... Albinus complied with what they said, and wrote in anger to Ananus, and threatened that he would bring him to punishment for what he had done; on which king Agrippa took the high priesthood from him, when he had ruled but three months, and made Jesus, the son of Damneus, high priest."
Josephus tells us precisely who James is the brother of – Jesus bar Damneus!
Here are other nonBiblical references used by Apologists to cite Jesus's historicity.
Tacitus in 116 CE mentions Christus (title),and Christians (cult).This is evidence of Christians,not evidence of Jesus the Christ.Search "Tacitus forgery"
See video @ 108:00 mark for deeper scrutiny of the Tacitus passage.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HMyudP5z2Xw
Pliny the Younger in 110 CE mentions that "Christians were singing a hymn to Christ as to a god".There were several people claiming to be a Messiah/Christ back in those times.
Suetonius in 121 CE mentions Chrestus (personal name),and Christians,and he maybe repeating what others have told him about this cult,or cults.
Lucian of Samosata(circa 125 - 180 CE)A second-century satirist named Lucian wrote that the basis for the Christian sect was a “man who was crucified in Palestine,”but this is merely repeating what Christians believed in the second century.Lucian does not mention Jesus by name.This reference is too late to be considered more direct historical evidence.
No work of Thallus survives.Here is a quote about him from Richard Carrier:"We know next to nothing about Thallus or his works.We don't even know if he wrote only one book or several.The only information we have about him,even his name,comes entirely from Christian apologetic sources beginning in the late 2nd century,and that information is plagued with problems."
Bart Ehrman,Did Jesus Exist?:"The Talmud is a collection of disparate materials from early Judaism.Most of the material relates to the early rabbis.The collection was put together long after the days of Jesus."The Talmud was put together approximately between the 3rd-5th centuries
Here is what is written in Baraitha Bab. Sanhedrin 43a, probably second century:
On the eve of Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy. Any one who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf." But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of the Passover! - Ulla retorted: Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defence could be made? Was he not a _Mesith_ [enticer], concerning him Scripture says, _Neither shalt though spare, neither shalt thou conceal him?_ With Yeshu however it was different, for he was connected with the government for royalty [i.e., influential]. Our Rabbis taught: Yeshu had five disciples, Matthai, Nakai, Nezer, Buni, and Todah.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/talmud.html
According to Michael Paulkovich (No Meek Messiah,2012,pp.199-200) there were up to 146
historians/writers (Silent Writers) during,or shortly after the supposed time of Jesus that did not mention him.
42 contemporary writers silent about Jesus while other wanna be Messiahs get mentioned.
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/jesus5.htm
Mara Bar-Serapion(circa 73 CE-?)Fragment of a personal letter from a Syrian named Mara Bar-Serapion to his son in prison that mentions that the Jews of that time had killed their “wise king.”The NT claims that the Romans,not the Jews,killed Jesus.The Jews had killed other leaders;for example,the Essene Teacher of Righteousness.If this truly is a report of a historical event rather than the passing on of folklore,it could have been a reference to someone else.
Celsus:A late 2nd century Greek philosopher was an opponent of Early Christianity.He is known for his literary work "The True Word" (C.177 CE) which survives exclusively in early Church apologist Origen's (184-254 CE) quotations from it in "Contra Celsum".This is too late to be evidence of Jesus Christ.
Was Jesus just a celestial deity in gnosticism from the belief of hidden messages in the Old Testament?
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gnosticism
This deity was called the "Logos" by Philo.This revelation derived from the OT had many monickers like "The First Born of God", "The Image of God", and "The Shadow of God" to name a few.
See "Logos", and "Pneumatology"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo's_view_of_God
Here is a remnent of a Gnostic Jesus in the Epistles.
1 Corinthians 2:6-8
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
*Who are the "rulers of this age"?
Why would the "rulers of this age" not crucify Christ if they knew it would give Man the chance to have eternal life in Heaven?
The Romans if they knew would not object for a chance at eternal life.
The "rulers of this age" were Demons of Gnostic belief.
"Brother of the Lord"
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldTEXucN7p4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVMK2P5BMXY
There were many preChristian saviour deities that went through a passion to have victory over death.
Here is one of the earliest.
The ancient Sumerian Goddess Inanna traveled to the Underworld.She was cursed into being a corpse then hung on a hook.After 3days/nights she was resurrected by life giving water and plants.
Here are the verse numbers, and translation (link) of the epic poem that predate Christ by at least 2,000 years.
164-172
173-175
246-253
273-281
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr141.htm
* Why do people believe?
Our Brains are evolved for learning, and we seek patterns in the enviroment.We have built in reward centers that are purposed for survival.These reward centers can be tricked to either cause false beliefs, and, or detrimental abuses.
For an exampleeople that work themselves up emotionally mistake higher levels of neurochemical production as being touched by the Holy Spirit.Dopamine causes feelings of euphoria, making sense of things that normally do not, and can add a wide range of hallucinations.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=axrywDP9Ii0
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2T-7_g6yUU
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ukFjH9odsXw
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DwNPTP40yy8
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUkrPNxLau0
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XAhmpVqbw_Y
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LWYwckFrksg
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sB9sTz_gyU
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b_6-iVz1R0o
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YqAwfv3HYGo
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3d33lQjZUeg
*Theists do not care about Earth.Their scripture says that God is going to make a new Earth.Why take care of the old when new is on the way?
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65%3A16-17&version=KJV
Isaiah 65:16-17
16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21%3A1-4&version=KJV
Revelation 21:1-4
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
http://quran.com/14/47-52
Quran 14:47-52
[It will be] on the Day the earth will be replaced by another earth, and the heavens [as well], and all creatures will come out before Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
And you will see the criminals that Day bound together in shackles,
Their garments of liquid pitch and their faces covered by the Fire.
*Theists believe people are born knowing God.
Romans 1:18-21
God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Check out contradictions in the Bible & Koran plus more in this link:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GDf2-EfMRAM