First post.... don't hurt me.

[Eli Grundy]

Just came across this blog cool topic, brings this video back to me



I's more on the issue of free will

To the original post:

Can't I own land even though I don't control the rain that falls on it? I don't see why total (instead of degree of) autonomy over an object would be requirement for ownership.

But can you really own a piece of land, what does ownership mean anyway?

You can transfer some money into someone else's hands and stake a claim on a piece of land, put your things on it, but is there anything more to the notion of owning it? Other than being able to say 'that piece of land there is mine', whatever that means.

Is there really any difference between me standing on a piece of land and arbitrarily saying 'I own this', and someone doing the same thing expect that they go through the standard, accepted procedure of buying it. I know that lawfully there is a distinction, but I'm talking other than in terms of convention.

Or is ownership just an arbitrary convention?

The social contract of course. It's arbitrary in that it has no inherent existence, however it has social impact and in a world of 7 bn people, social factors are quite real. All my opinion of course.

 

[Gnug215]

Hi Eli, and welcome to the forum.

Just posting to let you know that you're through the screening process now, and I'm sorry it took so long. (This is probably also what promped you to try posting again, which is understandable, but I am assuming that other post isn't supposed to be there, so I'm removing it.)

Also, I noticed you checking in on the chat yesterday. Seems like we had a pretty slow day, but there is usually some activity in there.

Oh, and I also took the liberty of correcting the YouTube embedding so that it works properly now. Hope you don't mind.

Hope you enjoy your stay!

 

[televator]

Hurt you? Why I oughtta...

Ha! Have some of that. That'll teach you to be a newb.

The social contract of course. It's arbitrary in that it has no inherent existence, however it has social impact and in a world of 7 bn people, social factors are quite real. All my opinion of course.

Are you saying the social contract somehow enforces property rights? How do you define the social contract? At a glance it doesn't seem to follow in that most people define the social contract in a way that violates or limits ownership or self determined actions.