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The bus service depends on the city. Where I live, it's more like every 10 to 15 minutes, outside of rush hour, if you're lucky, and forget about late night service. North American cities are still too much wedded to everyone should drive everywhere.Yes, eco concerns aside (battery disposal etc) for the moment, the practicality just isn't there for a lot of people. Can't tow with them, can really offroad them, those are my own practicality issues which obviously don't apply to everyone, but until those things are addressed they're just of no use to me. I guess if someone just needs to zip around town occasionally they could be ok, but then I don't really get why they'd spend that sort of money on a car if that's all they need to do. Any major city, or even large-ish town (here) has a bus service from everywhere to everywhere within that city every 4 seconds anyway.
This is a great point.And of course, this is why I like to ground my positions on evidence, because just as we need to take into account stepping generated power, we'd also need to take into account delivering all that combustible liquid around, distributing it to local outlets, maintaining it safely etc. If we're trying to make an evidence-based comparison, then we can't just pick the bits we want.
One can fill up a gas powered car with enough fuel to last a week in about 5 minutes or less. The area required to keep a city full of battery powered car depends on the amount of time it takes to charge the battery. It takes a considerable longer amount of time to charge a cars battery than it does to fill a tank with gasoline. There is not enough space in the city I live in to provide charging stations for all of us who want to own cars. Plus no one is talking about the added strain on the electrical grid.
Electric cars are vastly more expensive than gas or diesel.
How much is Earth's biosphere worth?
Ending the use of fossil fuels is mandatory: there is no other options.
There has been about 5 or 6 ice ages throughout recorded Earth history. The constant boom and bust of temperatures happened regardless of the presence of Industry of man.
Ok so a large part of the problem is how the Earth Orbits. How does an electric car or going green address this?
Ok so a large part of the problem is how the Earth Orbits. How does an electric car or going green address this?
My argument was that it isn't clear that ice ages are on the actions of man because they are throughout Earths history. I never made the argument that our actions never contribute. I am speaking in terms of trends the constant trends of boom and busts.
It does not. But, it also was not supposed to address that. It was in response to your claim that our actions are not linked to the current warming. So, again, work on your reading comprehension.
My argument was that it isn't clear that ice ages are on the actions of man because they are throughout Earths history. I never made the argument that our actions never contribute. I am speaking in terms of trends the constant trends of boom and busts.
Total Strawman from you.
There has been about 5 or 6 ice ages throughout recorded Earth history. The constant boom and bust of temperatures happened regardless of the presence of Industry of man.
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Yes literally the climate is always changing regardless of the presence of heavy industry of man that is confirmed. What is not confirmed is weather or not our interference results in something catastrophic. I would consider Ice ages catastrophic but those exist regardless. I am highly skeptical to this end and even more skeptical of other statements about going green at all costs or otherwise in the utmost degree.To be charitable, you are right that you did not argue our actions never contribute. However, reading that statement does seem to be touting the old canard of the climate is always changing.
I'm going to go out on limb here and say that it's actually impossible for you to know that.Currently, humans are warming Earth by ~0.21c per decade. It does not matter how much it costs to replace fossil fuels with renewable energy: it must be done, and immediately.
Yes literally the climate is always changing regardless of the presence of heavy industry of man that is confirmed. What is not confirmed is weather or not our interference results in something catastrophic. I would consider Ice ages catastrophic but those exist regardless.
Yea there's been 5-6 ice ages depending on which source you want to look at spanning back millions of years.I'm inclined to agree with this. It's way outside of my usual small sphere of topics I engage with, and as such I don't know if it's a good argument or not, just for total transparency. But what is clear is there was an ice age (at least one) and that thawed on its own without humans whizzing around in Ferrari's and flying planes all over the place.
Again, no idea if there's a good counter to that, perhaps there is, I just don't know enough about it and haven't spent much time on it.