Point of order: does a blocked poster get notified that they've been blocked by the blocker?
No. But as I'm not admin or mod here, I shall shut the fuck up
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Point of order: does a blocked poster get notified that they've been blocked by the blocker?
Sparhafoc said:It doesn't actually matter whether he used a button or not. He is, of course, not obliged to read or reply to any thread.
However, there does logically come a time when it goes too far, and should be treated as stonewalling.
So now he's on 3 or 4 people he's repeatedly called an idiot then blocked/ignored them.
That is trolling, regardless. First abuse, then repeatedly referring back to them as 'idiots', and refusing to engage with them.
3 or 4 - ok.
How about 10 or 15?
30 or 40?
At what point does it become 'too many' and it's not desirable to have someone use this forum as their personal fiefdom and platform to disseminate their ideas and not allow those ideas to be discussed?
Isn't that the remit of a blog, should someone so choose? Why would this website host that?
If it's justified to think of it as reaching a point where it's no longer acceptable, then it's justified considering what that point is.
TJump said:Again you are wasting my time.... you are intellectually inferior to me, im right. I don't care what you think.Nothing You say will ever change my mind because your not on my level. your poor education and lack of ability to understand is your problem not mine. I understand Dawkins quote just fine.
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theist are atheists in regards to all gods they don't believe in. YOU DON'T GET AN OPINION. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.
The meaning is clear, your inability to understand is your problem and is not a problem for for those of us educated on the topic.
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meaning is crystal clear, no further question necessary.
Get back on topic.
Sparhafoc said:TJump said:Again you are wasting my time.... you are intellectually inferior to me, im right. I don't care what you think.Nothing You say will ever change my mind because your not on my level. your poor education and lack of ability to understand is your problem not mine. I understand Dawkins quote just fine.
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theist are atheists in regards to all gods they don't believe in. YOU DON'T GET AN OPINION. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.
The meaning is clear, your inability to understand is your problem and is not a problem for for those of us educated on the topic.
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meaning is crystal clear, no further question necessary.
Get back on topic.
The thing is, this genetically works both ways or not at all.
If you only get an opinion to the degree it coincides with the lofty views of TJump, then why doesn't he only get an opinion if it coincides with others?
Given how he's repeatedly called those who disagree 'idiot' - and I do mean repeatedly - then I submit that something does need to be done to change this trajectory if rational discourse is desired. Otherwise, why shouldn't the membership take him to task mercilessly?
psikhrangkur said:I think that "taking him to task" is as simple as ignoring him.
Sparhafoc said:psikhrangkur said:I think that "taking him to task" is as simple as ignoring him.
I appreciate the idea, but again, it makes me wonder what the point of discussion fora is if people get to use them as their personal platforms to expound their own greatness. I was under the impression that's what things like blogs and MySpace were for.
psikhrangkur said:To be honest, I would be more concerned with setting precedent suggesting that the moderators have the right to determine who we do and do not wish to talk to.
Sparhafoc said:psikhrangkur said:To be honest, I would be more concerned with setting precedent suggesting that the moderators have the right to determine who we do and do not wish to talk to.
The thing is, I think they already do, both in terms of the point of the forum and in particular situations they have assumed the power to oblige or restrict speech, so to speak.
For example...
http://leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16014&p=185873#p185873
An obligation to show that a thread is not just trolling.
http://leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=186099#p186099
A warning that shit-posting has consequences.
I may be wrong, but I think I've seen either Gnug or Australopithecus warn a user for stonewalling before.
Obviously, this doesn't say they can (or want to) oblige someone to speak to others against their wishes, but on the other hand, if a member is actively engaged in a thread and is ignoring all the points raised defeating their contentions but is just ignoring all those points to repeat their flawed contention... then I think there is a reasonable motivation there to protect the integrity of discussion on the forum.
None of what I've said, incidentally, is intended to express any desire for TJump to be banned (although given his behavior, I do think it would be deliciously ironic) but rather that it might be good for one of the moderators to explain to him the requirements for using this forum and warning him from misusing it. I think that a fair warning can sometimes produce good outcomes.
Of course, it might also result in TJump calling the moderator an intellectually inferior idiot without an education, and that would be a fun outcome! :lol:
psikhrangkur said:I wonder how frustrated he actually is. Who knows; if moderation does do something, it'll probably piss him off, and then we might get a vlog about the forum after all.
Sparhafoc said:psikhrangkur said:I wonder how frustrated he actually is. Who knows; if moderation does do something, it'll probably piss him off, and then we might get a vlog about the forum after all.
I am sure the genius is a tad preoccupied finding a cure to cancer to worry about the frivolous flappings of the untermenschen.
psikhrangkur said:Sparhafoc said:I am sure the genius is a tad preoccupied finding a cure to cancer to worry about the frivolous flappings of the untermenschen.
I guess that explains why he couldn't waste any time on spelling and grammar.
Sparhafoc said:psikhrangkur said:I think that "taking him to task" is as simple as ignoring him.
I appreciate the idea, but again, it makes me wonder what the point of discussion fora is if people get to use them as their personal platforms to expound their own greatness. I was under the impression that's what things like blogs and MySpace were for.
WarK said:btw, if we're looking for a new banner, "The League of Idiots" is free
Sparhafoc said:WarK said:btw, if we're looking for a new banner, "The League of Idiots" is free
Oh that would be glorious!
There's nothing like a parody than one that humorously inflates that which it parodies.
That would tickle me for days, I admit.
How about "League Of Socratic Ignorants"?WarK said:Sparhafoc said:I appreciate the idea, but again, it makes me wonder what the point of discussion fora is if people get to use them as their personal platforms to expound their own greatness. I was under the impression that's what things like blogs and MySpace were for.
He can't use the forum the way you describe it. He may have blocked other user or maybe he's just ignoring what they're posting. But anyone reading through that topic will see all the replies and how TJump couldn't address any of the arguments.
As for calling other users idiots, coupled with his demands to be treated charitably, it's just funny and exposes how full of himself he is.
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btw, if we're looking for a new banner, "The League of Idiots" is free
Dragan Glas said:How about "League Of Socratic Ignorants"?
Just my attempt at witticism.Sparhafoc said:Dragan Glas said:How about "League Of Socratic Ignorants"?
Are you making a request, or was that rhetorical?
I'll find my own way out.
Do those who are blocked get notified of same?australopithecus said:If people are abusing the ignore function then I’ll just remove that option.