AiG: "Evolution not a theory" and "Four power questions"

[abelcainsbrother]

Hold up people! I have not even got to explaining reasons to believe in a global world wide flood.All I was doing is laying the ground work and establish that secular scientists have discovered climate change that caused a drought world wide,which produced dust and that it dates to the time of Noah's flood.

First you must acknowledge a global flood would effect the climate.Then we might can get into a proper biblical explanation and evidence for a global flood.Give God his due and remove the doubt of a flood from your mind and look at this evidence.

 

[Deleted member 619]

I'm amazed you all have followed through with him as long as you have.

To be fair, I haven't actually been talking to him, just using his posts as a springboard. In my experience, if you're honestly trying to changer the mind of somebody like ACB, you're doing it wrong. As they say in my business, you can polish a turd, but you only end up with a shiny turd.

 

[Deleted member 619]

First you must acknowledge a global flood would effect the climate.Then we might can get into a proper biblical explanation and evidence for a global flood.Give God his due and remove the doubt of a flood from your mind and look at this evidence.

You don't have any evidence, because this event never occurred. You can flannel away all you like, but your fludd is a fantasy. It cannot have occurred. Those fish are still laughing at you, as are the ancient Egyptians who, at the time of your fantasy, were digging canals. Why were they doing this while they were under 9 km of water?

 

[abelcainsbrother]

Don't ya'll realize that a global flood would effect the climate?Why should I keep giving evidence? All ya' all do is explain it away,you cannot allow the bible to be right.I have not given all of the evidence for Noah's flood and if y'all cannot see how a global flood would effect the climate causing a drought that produced the dust? Then I don't think you will see.First things first,acknowledge that the drought dates to the time of Noah's flood,and that it would cause climate change,then we might can move on.

So... are you really trying to use regional (as was showed they were) droughts are evidence for a global flood causing them without giving us any proper explanation why a global flood would lead to regional droughts? Even if, and I mean IF, we had evidence for a global flood a good scientest still wouldn't just claim that the global flood lead to the droughts without showing the causal link and the evidence for it. Which you haven't even tried to explain other than "global flood will f#"¤ up the climate, thus droughts". That's not science. That's not even proper thinking.

I have not got into that yet.And although some old earth creationists believe in regional floods and not a global flood,gap theory old earth creationists do believe in a global flood,they just don't explain it like YEC's do,they actually use secular scientific discoveries and real science about earth science and geology to explain a global flood.You'll hear no"water dome" that once existed around the earth,etc which is nonsense and not biblical either,we focus on geology because of William Buckland.

 

[abelcainsbrother]

First you must acknowledge a global flood would effect the climate.Then we might can get into a proper biblical explanation and evidence for a global flood.Give God his due and remove the doubt of a flood from your mind and look at this evidence.

You don't have any evidence, because this event never occurred. You can flannel away all you like, but your fludd is a fantasy. It cannot have occurred. Those fish are still laughing at you, as are the ancient Egyptians who, at the time of your fantasy, were digging canals. Why were they doing this while they were under 9 km of water?

Yes I do.Check out this.Most scientists now believe comets brought the water to the earth but this could change that and show and prove that the water on this earth came from inside it,not that it rules out comets too but most water on the earth came from inside the earth.Keep in mind that the bible in several places says there is water inside the earth.Job 38:8"Or who shut up the sea with doors,when it break forth,as if it had issued out of the womb?

http://www.geologypage.com/2014/08/scientists-detect-evidence-of-oceans.html#ixzz3WdC2Xxcq

 

[Deleted member 619]

You don't fucking get it! Your fantasy fludd didn't happen. You can waffle on about where the water might have come from until you're blue in the face, and those cichlids will still be laughing their fucking cocks off at your idiotic bollocks. There was no fucking fludd. Game fucking over.

 

[IBSpify]

Yes I do.Check out this.Most scientists now believe comets brought the water to the earth but this could change that and show and prove that the water on this earth came from inside it,not that it rules out comets too but most water on the earth came from inside the earth.Keep in mind that the bible in several places says there is water inside the earth.Job 38:8"Or who shut up the sea with doors,when it break forth,as if it had issued out of the womb?

http://www.geologypage.com/2014/08/scientists-detect-evidence-of-oceans.html#ixzz3WdC2Xxcq

this is just evidence of water being in the mantle, nobody is questioning that, but even if the bible does talk about the water in the mantle (hint: it doesn't) that would not be evidence of a global flood,

 

[abelcainsbrother]

Yes I do.Check out this.Most scientists now believe comets brought the water to the earth but this could change that and show and prove that the water on this earth came from inside it,not that it rules out comets too but most water on the earth came from inside the earth.Keep in mind that the bible in several places says there is water inside the earth.Job 38:8"Or who shut up the sea with doors,when it break forth,as if it had issued out of the womb?

http://www.geologypage.com/2014/08/scientists-detect-evidence-of-oceans.html#ixzz3WdC2Xxcq

this is just evidence of water being in the mantle, nobody is questioning that, but even if the bible does talk about the water in the mantle (hint: it doesn't) that would not be evidence of a global flood,

Can you read? I just proved the bible does say water is inside the earth and I could post more.I'm just establishing truth I have not got into the evidence for a flood and I'm not going to right now because I'm not going to cast pearls before swine.

 

[abelcainsbrother]

This thread is about evolution and I want somebody to prove me wrong about why I reject evolution.I know the evidence used as evidence like viruses,bacteria,finches,butterflies,salamanders,frogs,plants,etc only shows and proves life reproduces or that life can adapt,NOT that life evolves or that natural selection even effects life,no evolution at all and you should not put your faith in this belief life evolves.I don't assume or believe life evolves until it is demonstrated like it is taught in our society.

 

[Deleted member 619]

It is demonstrated, and has been several times. That you don't accept that reproduction and adaptation ARE evolution is only symptomatic of what an abjectly stupid twat you are. It's not our job to overthrow the indoctrination with idiotic fairytales so that you accept the facts. We couldn't give a fuck if you remain stupid for the rest of your life. We're only here to see that your idiotic guff doesn't go unchallenged. Reality doesn't care if you accept. Your approval or lack thereof will not change the fact that evolution occurs and has been observed occurring.

Fuck, I've not even been talking to you, because it's entirely futile.

 

[abelcainsbrother]

It is demonstrated, and has been several times. That you don't accept that reproduction and adaptation ARE evolution is only symptomatic of what an abjectly stupid twat you are. It's not our job to overthrow the indoctrination with idiotic fairytales so that you accept the facts. We couldn't give a fuck if you remain stupid for the rest of your life. We're only here to see that your idiotic guff doesn't go unchallenged. Reality doesn't care if you accept. Your approval or lack thereof will not change the fact that evolution occurs and has been observed occurring.

Fuck, I've not even been talking to you, because it's entirely futile.

If reproduction and adaptation are evolution,which I have not denied,my point acknowledges that reproduction and adaptation should be apart of evolution like you believe,but the problem is the evidence is not showing any of the other aspects of evolution that are apart of it.It is only showing reproduction or adaptation and you are ignoring this and choosing to assume the rest and believe life evolves.

You are ignoring my point and just declaring it has been observed that life evolves,you are preaching. But if we actually got into the evidence like I brought up it will not show anybody life evolves,only reproduction or adaptation. I know you want to circle the wagons and defend evolution and ignore my point and you can,but I'm right. Evolution is faith based science that I cannot put my faith in.

 

[Deleted member 619]

but the problem is the evidence is not showing any of the other aspects of evolution that are apart of it.It is only showing reproduction or adaptation and you are ignoring this and choosing to assume the rest and believe life evolves.

Total fucking bollocks. The evidence for the rest, namely selection, drift, speciation (allopatric and sympatric), extinction, all have swathes of evidence, and all have been observed.

You're simply talking through your arse.

You are ignoring my point and just declaring it has been observed that life evolves,

Of course I'm ignoring you, because you're talking complete fucking bollocks. I have no intention of doing anything other than ignoring you until you stop talking shit or, better yet, stop talking and fuck off. You don't have a point, only absolute fucking arse-water. You're wrong in every way, about absolutely everything.

you are preaching.

Fuck you. I'm delivering facts. To compare that to your citations of your moronic fucking fantasy is offensive.

But if we actually got into the evidence like I brought up it will not show anybody life evolves,only reproduction or adaptation.p

They are evolution, you moron.

I know you want to circle the wagons and defend evolution and ignore my point and you can,but I'm right. Evolution is faith based science that I cannot put my faith in.

You don't have a fucking point, you have only turds.

 

[abelcainsbrother]

See everybody Hack knows I'm right and this is why he does not want to get into the evidence.Because he knows I'm right.Nobody has yet shown me to be wrong about why I reject evolution.Hack knows viruses only demonstrate life adapts and that no evolution ever happens at all,no natural selection,no evolution only adaptation.Hack looks at this and believes it evolved.

 

[Mugnuts]

See everybody Hack knows I'm right and this is why he does not want to get into the evidence.Because he knows I'm right.Nobody has yet shown me to be wrong about why I reject evolution.Hack knows viruses only demonstrate life adapts and that no evolution ever happens at all,no natural selection,no evolution only adaptation.Hack looks at this and believes it evolved.

With responses like these, we all wonder "Why is this guy still here?"

Just start your own thread again and lay out all your wonderful evidence all at once in one big whopping post. Put up or shut up.

 

[Grumpy Santa]

Hold up people! I have not even got to explaining reasons to believe in a global world wide flood.All I was doing is laying the ground work and establish that secular scientists have discovered climate change that caused a drought world wide,which produced dust and that it dates to the time of Noah's flood.

First you must acknowledge a global flood would effect the climate.Then we might can get into a proper biblical explanation and evidence for a global flood.Give God his due and remove the doubt of a flood from your mind and look at this evidence.

Wait a minute please... where's the groundwork? All you've done is make odd assertions yet failed to back any of them up with actual evidence. When your assertions are demonstrated to be false you ignore that and continue to push them.

You need to at least convince us your ideas are remotely plausible and so far have failed to do that.

 

[Grumpy Santa]

Can you read? I just proved the bible does say water is inside the earth and I could post more.I'm just establishing truth I have not got into the evidence for a flood and I'm not going to right now because I'm not going to cast pearls before swine.

IIRC, it's not actually water in a liquid flowy type of state. Chemically bound hydroxyls do not a flood make.

 

[SpecialFrog]

Can you read? I just proved the bible does say water is inside the earth and I could post more.I'm just establishing truth I have not got into the evidence for a flood and I'm not going to right now because I'm not going to cast pearls before swine.

IIRC, it's not actually water in a liquid flowy type of state. Chemically bound hydroxyls do not a flood make.

That's only if you look at it from a secular perspective. If you looked at it from a Biblical perspective it would be obvious that angels squeezed the rocks until the water came out.

 

[Dustnite]

See everybody Hack knows I'm right and this is why he does not want to get into the evidence.Because he knows I'm right.Nobody has yet shown me to be wrong about why I reject evolution.Hack knows viruses only demonstrate life adapts and that no evolution ever happens at all,no natural selection,no evolution only adaptation.Hack looks at this and believes it evolved.

 

[Deleted member 619]

See everybody Hack knows I'm right and this is why he does not want to get into the evidence.Because he knows I'm right.Nobody has yet shown me to be wrong about why I reject evolution.Hack knows viruses only demonstrate life adapts and that no evolution ever happens at all,no natural selection,no evolution only adaptation.Hack looks at this and believes it evolved.

Ooops! Sorry, folks. Looks like I broke another one...

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

See everybody Hack knows I'm right and this is why he does not want to get into the evidence.Because he knows I'm right.Nobody has yet shown me to be wrong about why I reject evolution.Hack knows viruses only demonstrate life adapts and that no evolution ever happens at all,no natural selection,no evolution only adaptation.Hack looks at this and believes it evolved.