A proposal to think about.

[ciprian]

I sent this mail to thunderfoot:

What do you think about?
to: Thunderfoot:

subject :A GOOD proposal to think about
Content:
Hi.

I want to propose you something.
hope my English is ok and you will understand me.

Why don't you make an agreement with people like venomfangx.

Tell venomfangx(and others like him) that you will tell your subscribers to rate 5 stars and favorite his videos.

You will ask me: What?

BUT you will require that they need to open the video responses to everyone.(only video response - the comments can remain closed)

In this way their videos will grow in views, get atention, point the stupidity.
There will be also a grow in freethinker comunity because of the video responses.

In this way freethinker comunity channel will be brought in front will gain more viewers and the problem and pure stupidity of the creationists will be available for more theist people.

if you want to blow a balloon fill it with more air.

Please answer me.

Thanx,
Ciprian.

ps: i also think that this would be an unique action on youtube and a good way to promote free spech.

 

[mandangalo18]

I would be being dishonest if I rated one of those vids 5 stars.

 

[ciprian]

Many people rate regarding the quality of the video.
I still thing this coulde be a good idea.

i really thing that if the creationist video will be push in front pages on youtube that will accelerate and grow the religious debate.

Everything is about freespeech.
Both sides should be promote and then the people should choose.

As i see the league of reason responses and arguments i think that now is the time to push this debate further and give people the possibility to see the arguments and positions and then think more about this.

we shouldn't close the creationists mouth! we should help them talk louder!

Seeing them made me think more. Thinking made me look for points of view and after that i discover free thinkers and league of reason arguments.

It's not about them is about the problem and debate. If we want to push debate further than we should promote their videos also.

IS NOT BOUT BEING DISHONEST is about PROMOTING THE DEBATE!

ps: sorry for my english mistakes.

 

[ciprian]

also the free thinker communities channel owners must admit that most of the subscribers they have is from the people who saw creationist videos and don't agreed with them.

Indirect the league of reason/free thinkers is promoted by the creationist community.

 

[theatheistguy]

Sorry, but one, thunderf00t is known for not reading/replying to mail and two, I don't think he has ever told anyone to rate anyone's videos, nevermind 5 star, nevermind PCS.

Wont and should not happen.

 

[Marcus]

I don't think it will wash. Even in the unlikely event that TF went along with it, his subscribers aren't sheep. As soon as they were pointed to a PCS video with ratings enabled, they'd go and give their honest (one star, most likely) opinions.

 

[ciprian]

Rating on youtube is a little unfair.

if you don't like/agree someones opionion that doesn't meen to shut them up(or that the video is poor). the rating system in a way make the videos hard to find.

I wasn't talking about sheeps or orders.
I'm glad that you pointed this. what i meant is bring this in discution. I regret my choise of words: "that you will tell your subscribers to rate 5".

I trully think that they need to be brought in front.

And i also think that low rating is not only: "i don't like what he say". In a way is " i don't want people to see this".

This explanation in my opinion will make some users to do a choise.


Thanx.

 

[IrBubble]

Well the rating system is designed to let people show how crap (or good) a video is. If you don't want it then you can have ratings disabled.

 

[WaxItYourself]

isn;t thunderfoot a member here? I think I got the url for this website off one of his videos.

 

[ciprian]

I wasn't refered only to thunderfoot.
The main ideea is that we shoudnt low rate their video. The main arguments they made are manipulative and we give them the change to be in the "victim role" wich is very powerfull.
I really want to see some of theyr really stupid videos top 1 on youtube.

Also theirs response with votebots come because after a atheist made a video response we all go and low rate theirs video. Let them talk, let them be seen and heared. Indirectly people who find them will also find videos responses and this "debate/problem".
So for sure the people will have both sides opinions to see.