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I really don't care about the dynamics of international hegemony (the basis of current just-war theory). I'm concerned with the justification people use in saying "we killed people, but its ok because of X" or "i know we killed people, including small children, pregnant mothers etc, but thats ok...

i didn't say defensive war is justified. I was correcting his claim that GB didn't enter the war out of selfish motives Besides the fact that text can't sneer (honestly i'm not that hostile). As to your point, so what? I'm not trying to justify the use of killing as a diplomatic tool. It...

It was self-defense. Britain was acting in its self interest, since another european war would mean decreasing trade receipts. Isn't revenge such a fine motivation for killing people? Thats a rhetorical question btw. So uprooting a theocracy is sufficient justification to go to war? Lets go...

I agree you should be able to fight. However, killing is unjustifiable, and any attempt to justify it is rejectable on its face. "There is a major problem in this world and it is not people killing other people. It is that people want to have full control of other peoples lives. That is what...

Instead of requiring youth to go and fight to pay for a college degree, they could pay for the degree and not make them fight. it is a conscious decision to fight and kill, and those people who volunteer for such duty are so stained with its means of accomplishing itself.

Even WWII? no, not even WWII. the scale of the killing is unimaginable to anyone who looks at the figures. As a result of the war and its run-up Stalin killed 30 million people. That's the entire population of LA County. its evil, and not justifiable.

Low blow bro. As history is my hobby, I have studied numerous wars in the 20th century from multiple angles. I have read first hand accounts of battles ranging from the current cambodia-thailand war all the way back to the crimean war. in all my studies I have never reached the conclusion that...

http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/04/fake-seventy-metal-books-cave-jordan-labeled-important-find-christian-history/

This is why trolling IRL is a no-no. Terry Jones needs attention for his batshit crazy theology, at the cost of human lives. A repulsive ape.

uh, can we get back to the topic peeps?

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13612645 Its awesome.

I'm originally from LA, and I approved this message.

Lemme take a crack at this as my evil twin said: faith: the assertion of something for which there is no accompanying evidence belief: a statement held to be true with the capacity of being either true or false knowledge: a true belief delusion: a false belief I would add a few things; Faith...

Wow. i'm absolutely shocked. This is going in my teabagger hall of fame

that's nice, now how about YOU STOP RAPING CHILDREN YOU EVIL EVIL BASTARD!

Apparently this was the WBC's attempt at getting Ips to sue http://mashable.com/2011/02/19/anonymous-westboro/ AnonNews Press release http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=512

you can even impeach God in contradiction in his, essentially, affidavit.

You would put him on trial for what he says he did. If you accept his existence and the bible's infallibility, the bible would be all the evidence you need.

If you apply human morality to God and call him evil, you can apply human law to him and call him guilty. Ta Da.

Its not so much as what you say, its how you say it. If what you say is true, I don't think what they are doing is very ethical, especially using someones death to justify the message. Its a good message, but sainthood is bullshit anyway, why would they need to con people if what they say...