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This wasn't exactly the direction I was going, but it's been interesting nontheless. I was thinking more along the lines of the idea of just being with one person, not necessarily marriage. Such as having multiple girl/boyfriends, perhaps even with one "main" lover. Maybe you can get married...

Oh man... :facepalm: I cannot believe I just did that... Aught3 found the right article. I'll edit it back into the OP. :oops:

They're probably not consistant ( :lol: ), but I've heard it described more as knowing that you let their god down and being separate from him for all of eternity... Which, to be honest, is completely fine in my books. :D

Uh, no. Particularly that last part. Not only is it just argumentum ad hominum, I come from a rich, upper-middle class family. I don't resent the rich. What I resent is any system where the best way to get something valuable is to have that something and then do zero work yourself...

This is a pretty old article, but I came across it and I thought it was extremely interesting. I don't have any thought-provoking questions or comments, but I thought I'd share this just the same. Edit: Article here: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090713/duggan

Well, I wasn't refering to the opinion on marriage. I understand that...I find it absolutely ludicrous, but I understand it. I was talking about the poll about whether the relationships themselves should be legal or not. According to that poll, about 40% of Americans don't even think I should...

Exactly my feelings. I hate the time sink, but it's so fun once you get past that... Plus, it's a great way to keep up with people living far away.

Despite knowing that it's true, it still just boggles my mind that there are that many people out there that care about who someone else sleeps with. It's just....argh... I can understand a lot of things, but I cannot understand that.

From a secular point of view, is there any reason to be monogomous in relationships? For the sake of the discussion, let's assume that modern methods are 100% effective at preventing the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies. And I also mean an open relationship, not cheating. Meaning...

The question you ask, "Where does X right come from?" or "If X right comes from Y, why doesn't Z right come from Y?" are the two main questions that I've never heard satisfactory answers for. And the fact that they can't be answered is the reason I consider these questions to be the questions...

I think you're using a different definition of cruelty than me... I consider causing suffering (outside the harms principle) cruel. Thus, killing a non-person isn't cruel if done correctly and it's impossible to really be cruel to plants. Honestly, I consider exploitation on the scale of...

You're confusing leadership and ownership. I have no beef with CEOs or company presidents. I know one or two, and they're wonderful people that sincerely care about the people that work under them and view their job as little different from public office, other than the fact that they lead a...

I want to think that you agree with me on the immorality of incorporation given this. Am I right in thinking such?

Either way, that cracked me up, given the context. :lol: In all seriousness, people simply forget the fact that the 10 commandments contain several that are purely religious. It just goes to show you that often we understand certain parts of their religion better than they do, which is sad...

This isn't a particularly easy topic to discuss. People tend to gravitate towards the extremes, either saying that capitalism is anathema to society or the answer to every problem. The truth of the matter, in my opinion, is far more complex. Having a market free from government control...

I hate doing this, but define capitalism, or at least what you mean by it. Sometimes it seems like we spend our whole time clarifying and defining what we're saying...

creativesoul, could you define fact, truth, and actuality and explain the differences? I really don't see where you're coming from there. Why do qualitative/quanitative measurements necessitate discrimination? Oh, and what do you consider descrimination to be?

Yes. Thus the bolded statements I already made. Like the idea of a creator, it's possible, but unknowable and useless. So we go on with life and don't worry about such questions.

I think there's some confusion here over definitions more than anything else. What Ozymandyus is talking about as truth is essentially the same thing as what you call actuality. Sure, there's truth or, probably more properly, truthfulness as a property of a proposition. But to me, there's the...

The laws of causality could break down outside the physical. Would that make it largely incomprehensible to us? Sure. Such is why any serious thought about the potential "stuff" beyond the physical usually ends with "...but we can't prove it, can only speculate, and it really doesn't matter."...