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Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not Unnecessary and unfriendly. I didn't watch the video, but I conceded your point (I agreed that Genesis could possibly have been more scientific), so I didn't need to. My criticism was that having said that it could possibly have...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not This is important because it is fundamental to what I've been saying, and I don't think you understand it yet (I'm not suggesting you have to agree with me, but it would be nice if you could understand me). There is a difference...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not I didn't miss the point of the video, I just haven't watched the video. I don't watch many videos, I find them a slow and rather unreliable method of gathering info, and my connection is only ADSL1 (at present) so they are a bit...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not borrofburi and I have been briefly discussing whether Genesis should be expected to contain more accurate scientific information if it was divinely inspired. The following little short play in one act gives a humorous (I hope)...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not Again, let's remember we are both going only by one short interview, plus (in my case, not sure about you) his website and a few other reviews. We're both only guessing. But I'm guessing you've made wrong assumptions here about...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not Well, that's an opinion. I don't have any opinion on that, and don't see how anyone can without reading the book. Not "cutting" - I don't think he is using scissors or anything! - but rather "interpreting". Since he is...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not That is where we agree (as far as we can know anything when neither of us have read it!). You miss my point. All you say would be true if he was using the quotes to prove something scientific from Genesis, as say a creationist...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not Ah, ladiesman, more "quote mining!" Please see my note to your compadre where I suggest that this is an inappropriate phrase. But your main point is exactly what I have been saying, so we have reached some agreement which is...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not G'day borrofburi, thanks for joining the discussion. This would be the sort of criticism that many christians or historians would make, I imagine - they would say poor understanding of history, or of historical literature. But I...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not G'day Th1sWasATriumph We seem to be falling foul of ercatli's rule for forums, where posts grow exponentially as each tries to answer every point of the other. I think it is time to break the cycle, so I'm not going to answer all...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not Thanks mate, that's very clear. Here's my brief answers. 1. Neither of us has read the book, let's keep remembering that. We are only guessing, and definite statements about the book (which you two seem prone to make) cannot be...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not G'day ladiesman, It may come as a shock to you, but I am already familiar with the terms Occam's Razor (though I think it should be spelt "Ockham"), quote mining and theistic evolution. But unfortunately I have nothing to say...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not I agree. There is no need to discuss further. You have agreed that he does understand the evolution of the eye, and that was all I was trying to point out. Let's leave it there. I don't understand how your (1) is relevant. Yes...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not Oh c'mon mate! Saying "he has written a book that finds parallels between Genesis and evolutionary science" is expressing an opinion???? Surely that's a fact that no-one disputes (regardless of whether we agree with the book or...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not I can see where the problem is. In the statement "he DID understand", the word "did" is past tense, which you contrast with his present views, which you question. So the plain meaning of your posts is exactly as I outlined in my...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not I don't want to be difficult when we have agreed about the original point, but I think this is worth continuing a little longer. Because, unless I have misread the discussion, this statement is not correct. I have tracked through...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not I'm sorry mate, but there's only one problem with this. I have never offered an opinion on whether his book is scientifically credible. So any evidence you have given there was not relevant to my question. (Although I didn't...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not That was all I was asking for. Thanks. I pressed on because you took a few steps to get here - first defending your statement, second saying it wasn't a definite statement, but still defending it, third calling me a troll for...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not Guys, Thank you for responding so far. I seem to have upset you, but I don't know why, and I'm sorry. So it is best to depart before things get nasty. Let me sum up. Th1sWasATriumph made a statement that I thought was...

Re: Andrew Parker Lost The Game (And The Metro, Happily, Did Not I'm sorry I've apparently upset you but I really don't know why. All I've done is ask a few questions - does that make me a troll? Or would you rather people didn't ask questions? Anyway, thanks for at least answering. It seems...