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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    Oh yeah... As far as the unconscious mind goes, I would highly recommend Jung's account of the unconscious.
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    All cases of conscious experience are meaningful to the creature having the experience.
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    All theories of mind that rest their laurels upon dualism are inherently incapable of taking *proper* account of meaning. To be clear, by *proper*, I mean an account of meaning that adequately explains the simple core of all meaningful things. The account must include the simplest forms of...
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    All I've put forth is that while all sleeping creatures are rightfully called "unconscious", not all cases of being unconscious are cases of sleeping creatures. So, there is no equivalency between sleeping and being unconscious. Thus, the analogy between those two dichotomies fails. Better to...
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    There is no general consensus on the topic. As an admin said earlier, it is an ill-defined concept that is not very well understood as a result. Consciousness has many different renditions, so to speak, each with its own underlying conceptual scheme. What is needed is a bare minimum criterion...
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    That's a good question!
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    Sure. Which parts? I mean, there's quite a bit packed up in there. Help me out with some clear questions.
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    1.) To be awake is to not be asleep. 2.) To be conscious is to not be asleep. 3.) To be conscious is to not be unconscious. 4.) To be asleep is to not be awake. 5.) To be asleep is to be unconscious. 6.) To be unconscious is to not be conscious. 7.) Consciousness is being awake, and...
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    Indeed, it is used like that by some creatures that are self aware! Not all. Others are forced to reject that terminological framework as a result of its inevitable consequences. On pains of coherency alone, the taxonomy you've put into practice leads to concluding that only self-aware...
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    Who's "we"? :oops: It would follow that only self aware creatures were conscious. That's problematic.
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    I would concur, and take it a bit farther... In addition to following the suggestion above, I would further suggest setting aside all preconceptions prior to attempting to understand what they are getting at.
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    A new look at Self-Consciousness (Question reality)

    The term "awake" is key to everything that follows. Such pivotal terminology needs defined. There is no definition of "awake" anywhere to be found in the authors language use thus far. I'm left wondering what exactly they're doing with the term. Seems to be used as a means to help draw a...
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    Roe v Wade

    Put it to the people. Make it count. Note the overlap between those who want to force women to have unwanted pregnancies and those who are complicit in stopping the government from enacting laws that are in the best interest of everyone(the public infrastructure parts of BBB). Note the overlap...
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    Roe v Wade

    The exact same reasoning could be invoked as warrant(precedent) for the removal of each and every right that is not clearly spelled out in the constitution.
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    Roe v Wade

    The recent ruling used reasoning that amounted to rejecting the original argument given in Roe. It goes like this... There are no rights to abortion afforded to women clearly spelled out in the constitution, therefore a woman does not have a constitutional right to abortion care. That is true...
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    The How and Why Of Self-Consciousness "Sticky Please"

    It's just that you spoke of an "elephant in the room" which implies some serious issue that everyone knows but fails to mention. I mean, that's what the phrase is used for; to point that much out. How inanimate matter becomes animate is a topic worthy of it's own thread. For this thread, we're...
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    The How and Why Of Self-Consciousness "Sticky Please"

    Just a friendly bit of advice... prior to introducing anything new, you're much better served by ironing out the current wrinkles. Then, after you honed the beginning(and it needs it), it's okay to start adding to it. For whatever that's worth... :)
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    The How and Why Of Self-Consciousness "Sticky Please"

    This looks like a contradiction of what you've said earlier. You're using the term "conscious" in at least two distinctly different senses here. What I mean is that sometimes you use it as a synonym for being awake, and at other times it's used as a synonym for being aware. Being awake is not...
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    The How and Why Of Self-Consciousness "Sticky Please"

    This presupposes that all cases of bringing a woman to orgasm requires fucking. That's not the case at all. Rather, that presupposition is falsified by what's happened, what is currently happening somewhere(lucky folks), and what will most certainly continue to happen so long as women are having...
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