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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    I see. I am farily new to forum posting. I will keep this in mind.
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    Sounds like I was offering clarity, besides, why would you take caps as shouting? I used caps because they are bigger, as opposed to lower case, to draw attention. Oh, and in the posts that include caps, there weren't any degrading, offensive, or derogatory statements made.
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    Why do people take all caps response as offence? Why the hell would you need a reason for me doing this? Its like asking a person, why do you think? My point was simply to express ideals. Is this the personal answer you were loooking for, as opposed to my reasoning given of what my intent in my...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    I thought this was the league of reason. Instead, this seems to me a place to pick minute aspects out of ideas to provoke arguments. There is no anger on my part, for I have responded rather logically and reasonably. You also seem to dismiss what I say, almost all the time, or don't get the main...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    You must have a grudge against straw men and be attracted to repetition. You can revise this thread if you don't believe me, as I have explained, set aside, and moved on to other topics pretaining to the original post, which I am ONLY guessing, is what a thread does. WHAT DO THEY BELIEVE AND...
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    Question for theists with belief in a personal god.

    There is nothing to correct you on. You have only added to the fallacy and contradiction of the personal god that I was trying to point out in the first place.
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    They still believe because they want to believe, because its part of their history and their culture, and because the parts that they believe aren't metaphor (the Jesus story) are truth ... What is it that they believe? I personally don't see the point, so I was partially questioning your...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    If some christians and catholics etc. take the bible and even god as a metaphor, surely they must also take heaven and hell as a metaphor also. I would then ask, what is the purpose of being a christian or catholic, since, it is known to these catholics and christians that the bible and god is a...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    Hmm... I'm sure there are catholics who believe in an actual personal god, hell, and heaven. I am also sure they pray. If common understanding of the creation story in religious circles, is taken for just as a story of creation, there would be NO prayer and NO belief in heaven and hell. Yet they...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    Your posted this while I was in the middle of replying to the peson who wanted clarity. But that you believe that the bible was given to us by a personal creator of everything, along with our natural morals and instincts... Good luck proving that one. In later posts I have clarified this by...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    In addition to my idea, the "day of judgement" is also a metaphor of you judging yourself before you die, either right before you die, or around the time you feel frail and weak and think you are about to die. Your judgement of yourself is your whole life being contemplated by your currnet self...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    Sure, I'll try. The post explains my thoughts on the reasoning for the bible to exist, with very little of my life philosophy at the end. The bible aka rule book, is derived from the "word of god". The word of god would be natural instincts and morals. God would be a simple explanation of the...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    Reread the post carefully and try to get the general idea. You are asking a question which I have no care for or intent to answer because your question has nothing to do with what I've written other than the, "So the Bible is an attempt by humans?" part.
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    Question for theists with belief in a personal god.

    Lets say this personal god is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient. The personal god is omniscient, knows that I am ignorant in his eyes, and knows what I want to see in order to believe him. What I want to see is him or an extravagant, obvious happening by him, to save myself from the hell he...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    There isn't really a "gist" to catch. I have given examples of why I think my idea. There is a reason why the original post is that long. The metaphorical truth is to live yor life correctly with the hope of a heaven afterwards, again, this is in the original post. The creator of the universe is...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    However, I see the bible and god as a metaphor; a book of laws and instructions in the context of its time, on how to be happy and not die with regrets or "sins". The laws and instructions, which is the bible, are given by god(god in my idea would be the personal creator of everything, along...
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    I apologize for the length of the post. I tried to be thorough with the idea.
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    the bible, a metaphor of laws and instructions.

    :idea: Here's a thought. From what I've seen in separate ideologies and sects of Christianity, they all interpret the Bible slightly different from the others. Some sects might hold the works of the Bible completely literally, providing a seemingly robotic and indisputable understanding of...
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