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  1. tigert

    The information theory argument

    Visaki there is absolutely nothing funny about it. It is what it is. Patterns never contain symbolism or language that represent something other than themselves, they contain no design whatsoever. That's why patterns aren't design. But design has patterns and design. There is a vast chasm...
  2. tigert

    The information theory argument

    No I'm not trying to expand the definition of info to contain patterns. Information & designs will always contain patterns but patterns never contain design - design always invokes symbolism and language which represents something other than itself, which is what DNA does, or Chinese or a pile...
  3. tigert

    The information theory argument

    Nope not semantics. It's clear enough, I even quoted an expert in the field of which you can do your own research since you don't trust me. The use of the term code is literal not analagous.
  4. tigert

    The information theory argument

    False. I don't begin defining DNA to be code that can only be created by a mind so that I can automatically arrive at that conclusion. " Francis Crick received the Nobel prize for discovering DNA. The following is from the first paragraph of Francis Crick's Nobel lecture on October 11, 1962...
  5. tigert

    The information theory argument

    A few here have made the unscientific claim that DNA is merely a molecular pattern. They need to urgently update their understanding of the matter. It's well established that DNA stores and IS an information storage system. We can even store whole books in it. In no way is DNA like a snowflake...
  6. tigert

    The information theory argument

    I'm not new at this. The so called "fallacies" only come about from a fallacious understanding of the argument. Definition of information: The dictionary definition (computer science case in particular) will suffice: "Processed, stored or transmitted data." From Wikipedia: Information is a...
  7. tigert

    The information theory argument

    Here's a convincing argument for God. (1) The sequence of base pairs in DNA is a code. Much effort has been made to discredit this statement, unsuccessfully. This statement is fully and explicitly supported in virtually all of the scientific literature since the 1960"²s. (2) All codes that we...
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