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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Re: creationist's error on dinosaur, etc., soft tissue Isotelus, my deadlines are fast and furious, and I don't know how I'd find the time to review what you have, but yes, it's been on my mind that I'd like to see your info on these. - Bob Enyart Real Science Radio http://rsr.org
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Re: creationist's error on dinosaur, etc., soft tissue Isotelus and hwin, I was wrong. Thank you for helping me to see my error, and that it is primarily the outer tube of this pre-Cambrian worm that soft tissue has been identified from. A few things threw me off, including thinking that as...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Thanks for your humility Rumraket. While I went ahead and paid for the paper, and read it when it came out, I don't have time now to go scan it right now, but I'm rather sure that it is incorrect to assume that the only extant endogenous soft tissue is chitin. Even if it were, however, chitin is...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    hwin, if the similarities between dinos and chickens required the existence of a common ancestor, then the extraordinary similarities in the whale and bat genetic sequences would require the existence of a common echolocating ancestor. Yet as I'm sure you're aware (from rsr.org/genomes and...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Thanks for writing hwin. With all that info from Isotelus, can you now help me correct Rumraket and let him know that with these worms, the researchers are not reporting only imprints, but non-permineralized soft tissue. And regarding this: Hwin, do you see a difference between Isotelus' claim...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Hello Rumraket, from what you've written, I can't tell if you've read the paper, but it is worth the read. From page 227: Rumraket, with this paper and all the journal papers that I excerpted and linked to in the debate here with Aron, I did not include any reports of mere imprints or of...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Hello australopithecus. In the few years since my debate with AronRa, I think that he and everyone involved, by now, would agree with me that the many peer-reviewed papers that I quoted from were indeed claiming to have recovered dinosaur, etc., soft tissue. And the paleontological landscape has...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Hi Grumpy. Let's look at what's been discovered, and then apply a healthy dose of scepticism to that claim. The various kinds of endogenous original biological material recovered include the proteins tubulin, collagen, actin, hemoglobin, and histone, and they include osteocyte cells, apparent...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Guys, something else you might want to consider, is that original biological material from Archeopteryx, dinos, etc., is not being found only deep inside of large bones, and in just certain kinds of sediments, but all over the place, and in tiny bones, skin, feathers, etc. The way we can find in...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Hi guys! if you review the literature, you'll see that a number of dinosaur proteins have already been sequenced, including some by a team from Harvard. So far, the biological material found in fossils from dinosaur-layer strata down to pre-Cambrian include many various proteins such as the...
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    Dinosaur Soft Tissue

    Hello Collecmail, and he_who_is_nobody, inferno, et al. Bob Enyart here, AronRa's old sparring partner. Perhaps this quote from a 2014 paper in the Journal of Paleontology, at http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1666/13-003, will help clarify, regarding a pre-Cambrian (layer) marine worm fossil...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    hwin, thanks for not cackling. Have you considered that it's possible to define an idea in overly broad terms as a way of making it more easily defensible, and as a way of making it appear like there is less scientific descent against it than there actually is? For example, the 3,000 PhD...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    hwin, except for Master_Ghost_Knight, who posted right below you. :) He said that of course natural selection creates new features. hwin, "THE" correct definition? You can't even get that from Richard Dawkins. Over the years I've notice that even when a creationist uses standard biology...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    Thank you hwin. Of course, we disagree completely, but I appreciate an actual assessment of the point being made. hwin, I appreciate the opportunity to share with you that creationists fully endorse natural selection. All of the leading creation ministries, and all the creationists that I am...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    nemesiss, thanks for chatting. I'll leave this where it is for now. Hope you're okay with that. -Bob Enyart http://kgov.com/caterpillar
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    Hi hwin, it's fine if you want to quote Aron's interpretation of what he said on the air. But the purpose of our written debate, as he urged it and explained it, was to find out who's on-air assertions were false, and who's were true. Here's the transcription of what was said on air which...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    Hi nemesiss, you should be able to agree with these statements (even if you are an ardent atheist or evolutionist) 1. If the Earth and Sun are only thousands of years old, then Darwin's theory of how life on Earth diversified must be false 2. Regardless of what other evidence supports or...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    nemesiss, I believe that Gnug and James had both separately and specifically asked me how our discussion relates to a young earth, and so I pointed out that nonconforming sequences are part of multiple lines of evidence that undermine the Darwinist/old-earth worldview. That's it. I was answering...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    Wow, that's all small-time hole poking? At least you'd have to agree, I would think, that the nonconforming sequences are not primarily limited to single-celled bacteria and the odd gene here and there. And if you agree with that, then you're agreeing (even if it's hard to admit) that Aron &...
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    Aron Ra vs Bob Dutko

    Hi James! Does it disprove the Jerry Coyne/AronRa claim that the nonconformist genetic sequence phenomenon is mostly in bacteria, except for an odd gene here and there? Thanks for the description of an isomer. I use them as an analog for explaining to folks that a particular protein sequence...
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