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Recent content by Onceforgivennowfree

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    AronRa and OFNF exclusive thread

    AronRa, You haven't shown a bio-chemical pathway by which the ATP could evolve. Do you not understand what a bio-chemical pathway is? Evolution requires a step-by-step mutational pathway to create the ATP motor (and everything else!). If there is a step-by-step pathway that can create an ATP...
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    AronRa and OFNF exclusive thread

    Ok so wait, that paper you first cited doesn't show a possible biochemical pathway by which the first ATP could have evolved? I hope you understand my frustration. You cite a scientific paper where I need to PURCHASE the paper or get a SUBSCRIPTION in order to read it. All people can see when...
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    AronRa and OFNF exclusive thread

    Sorry AronRa, just a simple clarification. What pages and paragraphs show that the mechanisms of mutation and natural selection have or can create the ATP motor? I have the paper now and I can't seem to find it. Did I miss something or does the paper not actually provide the evidence you claim...
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    AronRa and OFNF exclusive thread

    Thanks for defining abiogenesis. No one knew what you were talking about, so we really really needed that. It’s not a rabbit trail at all. *Sarcasm Also, thanks for bringing up the faith statements of various Christian organizations, the rulings of some judge, and what Kent Hovind once said in...
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    AronRa and OFNF exclusive thread

    This is why it’s so difficult to reason with you. I say something fairly simple and straight forward, and you re-interpret it and tell try to tell me what I’m saying. I said nothing about abiogenesis (the origin of life from non-life), and neither did I intend to. I’m talking about step-by-step...
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    AronRa and OFNF exclusive thread

    Yes. Allele frequencies vary all the time. I have no doubt that this can happen. I already know what evolution means. That is why I already clarified which part exactly I reject. That way, we can just focus on that. You believe that a step by step biochemical pathway exists that can...
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    AronRa and OFNF exclusive thread

    Thanks for setting this up! I think it'll work much better! :) AronRa asked me about these 3 points specifically. So first of all, I don't want to make a blanket statement that I reject these statements. I do, but only to a degree. The last two I don' t think I would have any disagreements...
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    onceforgivennowfree

    To be honest, I was hoping you could just give proof of Evolution. Clearly, it won't be that straight forward. I think your frustration stems from this format.....with hundreds of posts and over 30 pages, it's impossible to have a back and forth discussion. I have to go back multiple pages to...
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    onceforgivennowfree

    Aron, your condescension has been at the forefront of this discussion the entire time. You assume that I don't understand the evidence for Evolution because that is what you have convinced yourself to believe - that if anyone rejects the theory of Evolution, then that person does not understand...
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    onceforgivennowfree

    Thanks for your version of the events AronRa! Want to hear mine? You accepted my challenge to prove evolution. You didn't. You claimed that I declared victory. I didn't. I said I would make a video in order to go over the evidence (or proof) you cited in detail. So what's the problem? I...
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    onceforgivennowfree

    Ok well I think I have all I need.....or all I'm going to get from AronRa. He clearly has no proof for Evolution. Rather, he has facts which he claims support and are concordant with Evolution, and which Creationists cannot account for. I keep waiting for the "magic bullet" proof from AronRa...
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    onceforgivennowfree

    Glad to see that we can use this Atheist run forum. After all, we know that Atheists would never ban anyone! They want an open and fair discussion! Oh wait.... Is this what it's getting to now? I was told there would be no censoring here. In fact, I was told that that was specifically WHY...
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    onceforgivennowfree

    For those who are curious, here is my response to an Atheist who was brave enough to *gasp* answer my challenge without making 1.2 million excuses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuk5l_Lg4_4
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    onceforgivennowfree

    AronRa, My apologies if I didn't reply right away, but I'm starting to lose hope in you ever providing the evidence. I was busy responding to an Atheist who *gasp* answered my challenge without making a million excuses. It's amazing how SIMPLE the challenge is for others to understand. I asked...
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    onceforgivennowfree

    Hi AronRa. So I clarified why I reject Evolution: Your response? Right. Obviously. What was I thinking? The heart that pumps blood through our veins all evolved independently, then once the heart, the blood and the veins evolved, they all came together accidentally by random mutations and...
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