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Recent content by Dumbfounded

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    Defining Atheism

    Apparently no-one's never heard this one before. It's at least 20 years old in my experience. Even if your first point were true, it would merely be an appeal to consequence, but it's not true. It's quite easy to show that by their taxonomic definitions all men are apes. That does not render...
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    Defining Atheism

    Oops, apologies for the absence, I was unwell. Sorry if I've misunderstood, but what do you mean by counter-belief in your earlier statement? Moving on. Actually, I assumed you were smart enough to tell the difference. Yup, you can call yourself what you like as far as I'm concerned...
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    Defining Atheism

    Thanks, Ciraric. Squawk, the definition of theist I used was someone with a theology. Do you know of any theist who doesn't have one?
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    Defining Atheism

    Really? Only I've managed to get people to agree to those definitions at every stage. It's like those "1=2" maths proofs, you lead them on in small stages to an absurd conclusion then leave them to try and find where they went wrong. By the way, Joe, you're not actually the final arbiter of...
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    Defining Atheism

    No, but I think some people are well on their way to one: "Atheism is lack of belief, period. Having a counter belief is something outside of atheism, as far as I can tell, and as far as the correct definition goes." "I'm quite happy to disagree with the dictionaries if need be. The etymology...
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    Defining Atheism

    Where's the lie, I'm quite open about my definitions in the above statement? 8-)
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    Defining Atheism

    Besides, we're all theists anyway. Since a theist is anyone with a theology, and a theology is a set of beliefs about god, deists and strong atheists are theists, as they believe god is an impersonal force or a non-existent entity respectively. But neutral atheists are theists too, since they...
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    Defining Atheism

    It's alright, I'm just stirring, not getting antsy. That's fine, I just take issue with the idea of a 'correct' definition. There's your definition, and someone else may have their definition, but that doesn't mean either of you is right, or - in the case of language - wrong. Think about...
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    Defining Atheism

    So someone telling you what atheism means is bad, but you telling others what theism and deism means is okay, But that's not hypocritical because presumably you define hypocritical to mean large and yellow with pink spots or something. I wish I knew where you were all getting your universal...
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    Defining Atheism

    So presumably dwarfism would be belief in the existence of dwarfs, feminist would be belief that you're a woman, journalism is the belief everyone should keep a diary, witticism is the belief that you are being funny, and globalism is the belief that the world is not flat like it says in the...
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    My friend is born again and doubts evolution - My reply

    Pushing IJ's metaphor a little further... If only the creotards would have a go at climbing the mountain of scientific evidence, they would find you can see so much further, even if you only get a little way up. Instead they seem content to stand on their bibles and shout "Look at me! I'm king...
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    My friend is born again and doubts evolution - My reply

    Ah, Melo et al is available as a PDF here. I probably followed a link to it looking for something else. That's a relief, for a moment I thought I might have begun channelling PZ Myers!
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    My friend is born again and doubts evolution - My reply

    The next paragraph of the Matzke/Forrest paper says much the same thing. "Decades ago, creationists began to use microevolution and macroevolution idiosyncratically. Creationists' use of "microevolution" is not dissimilar to that of evolutionary biologists, although they apply it not just to...
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    Defining Atheism

    The etymology is from the Greek "a-theos" meaning "without god(s)". Where is the mention of belief? Similarly, "anti-theos" would mean "against god(s)", which again does not specifically describe belief (Online Etymological Dictionary). It originally didn't even mean being without all gods. The...
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    Defining Atheism

    So the correct definition doesn't appear in Encarta then? "unbelief in God or deities: disbelief in the existence of God or deities" Or Merriam-Webster? "a: a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity" Or Cambridge? "the belief that God does not exist" Or the...
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