Led Zeppelin
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I thought the first rule about gun safety was to never even point a gun at anyone, no matter if you think it's loaded or not.
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Yes its the most common rule but when shooting a serie or movie it needs to be realistic so you point and shoot. What is weird is that real bullets where on set that is inexcusable to do.
I thought the first rule about gun safety was to never even point a gun at anyone, no matter if you think it's loaded or not.
Agreed. Apparently some of the crew would use the prop guns for plinking. If you ask me, after a scene is shot or filming is complete for the day the guns should be locked up with trigger locks in a gun safe. Also no live ammo,other than blanks should be allowed on set. This entire tragedy is complete failure of safety within the industry.Yes its the most common rule but when shooting a serie or movie it needs to be realistic so you point and shoot. What is weird is that real bullets where on set that is inexcusable to do.
It appears the for a film set guns and ammo are required to be locked up when not in use. In addition, live rounds are not allowed on the set at any time. More details in this article from the New York Times.It is very strange that live rounds somehow got 'mixed up' with blanks. I haven't looked into the tragedy too much but something does seem a bit off about it.
You literally cannot follow gun safety rules 100% of the time in every situation prop gun or not. That is an impossibility. At some point in some circumstances you will have to.
I thought the first rule about gun safety was to never even point a gun at anyone, no matter if you think it's loaded or not.
According to one source I have read the police found 500 rounds of FMJs (range/training ammo) on set. FMJs and blanks loaded in the same box. There is a reason MTM makes varying boxes to reload ammunition with. Too bad the person in question was too stupid to follow common sense or best practices when it comes to firearms or ammunition more to the point.Yes its the most common rule but when shooting a serie or movie it needs to be realistic so you point and shoot. What is weird is that real bullets where on set that is inexcusable to do.
That set supposedly had multiple problems with being cheap. One such problem was the production staff getting hotels and motels out of state where the production was happening in order to save money.What I’d like to know is how anyone was able to miss that real bullets were on set and didn’t remove them.
I'm fine with going target shooting with actual firearms. The problem comes when you don't procedure and back and clean firearms. Some require that you pull the trigger in order to disassemble them. Every firearm is loaded until proven otherwise. Check chamber and clear. Apparently someone got very lazy.Agreed. Apparently some of the crew would use the prop guns for plinking. If you ask me, after a scene is shot or filming is complete for the day the guns should be locked up with trigger locks in a gun safe. Also no live ammo,other than blanks should be allowed on set. This entire tragedy is complete failure of safety within the industry.
One source claims that Police found 500 FMJs on set. They were mixed in with the same set of reloading MTM cans as blanks. Someone got lazy.It is very strange that live rounds somehow got 'mixed up' with blanks. I haven't looked into the tragedy too much but something does seem a bit off about it.
Common sense was by not allowing real bullets on set. Do not know what procedures they followed but at least 3 safety checks should have been done the first when getting the bullets, second while loading and third when giving to the cast. Best would be if cast knew what to look for.Too bad the person in question was too stupid to follow common sense or best practices when it comes to firearms or ammunition more to the point.
I still don't see why you would need to point a real gun at another person in order to make a movie.You literally cannot follow gun safety rules 100% of the time in every situation prop gun or not. That is an impossibility. At some point in some circumstances you will have to.
Action scenes require you point firearms (firearm facsimiles) at people. How do you think the Matrix and the like are made?I still don't see why you would need to point a real gun at another person in order to make a movie.
Especially If they were using something like an remake of an old single action ball and cap percussion revolver, like the ones they used to sell in hunting magazines. I have heard conflicting reports of the actual type of gun they were using..I suspect for Baldwin to not lying it would mean the action of the revolver is tired and has been fanned many times without being rebuilt.