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Hovind series ep21

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Who is God to judge us that’s a better question and to kill all does people. Is it right to kill no but in some cases you need to take action to make sure it never happens again. Here in our little corner we have rules and laws so if you kill you will be dealt with by your peers. Right or wrong is a strange concept what is wrong or right can differ with each person because of upbringing.
Well I don't think you need God to tell you that it is wrong to steal or sleep with someones wife. I don't think the idea of right and wrong is a strange thing. The major point of what God gave to us in the Bible is that Law = Death . No matter what law He gives us, we will break it. That is how we are. We will all sin, no matter what laws you make for us. We will hurt each other and destroy the world and there is no law you can make to stop that.
 
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Secularists want people to legally commit suicide. Kill their unborn babies and turn little boys into little girls. It is not going to work.
 
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Secularists want people to legally commit suicide. Kill their unborn babies and turn little boys into little girls. It is not going to work.
Why should women be forced to carry through a pregnancy that is unwanted and if they do how does it have a negative effect on you or the rest of society?

Why shouldn't a person be allowed to end their life with dignity and if they do how does it effect you or the rest of society.?

What does is matter to you if a person wants to change their sex and if they do how does it effect you or the rest of society?
 
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Why should women be forced to carry through a pregnancy that is unwanted and if they do how does it have a negative effect on you or the rest of society?
Because said entity it entirely innocent - the mother isn't.
Why shouldn't a person be allowed to end their life with dignity and if they do how does it effect you or the rest of society.?
That highly depends on the people killing themselves. Obviously it does effect society in terms of their own family members and friends. Personally I don't think you should be prohibited from this.
What does is matter to you if a person wants to change their sex and if they do how does it effect you or the rest of society?
Again it effects their friends and family most. General public supporting this is nothing less than dystopian. Also the lines of definitional language needs to change in order to accommodate such a lifestyle. Lying isn't good and whenever possible you shouldn't lie.
 
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You guys were very helpful with a previous video script. For this next one I'm working on, I think I need to hear from some nerds who know something about computers and how to measure comparative complexity.
Not sure if this would be of any use to AronRa or if he's even going to see this, but I think it would help if he's aware of the extent of biodiversity Creationists already accept within "Kinds" to show that they clearly accept that Macroevolution happens.

Baraminology and Grafting Compatibility in Plants, 2020: [citations within link]


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Extraordinarily Diverse "Plant Kinds" (Baraminology); 2020: [citations within link]


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[I am n]ot sure if this would be of any use to AronRa or if he's even going to see this, but I think it would help if he's aware of the extent of biodiversity Creationists already accept within "Kinds" to show that they clearly accept that Macroevolution happens.

Er... ah... AronRa has produced dozens of videos and hundreds of talks regarding this. Professional Creationists have come up with at least a dozen explanations for why this is type of "macroevolution" and several dozen excuses for why "macroevolution" cannot happen due to a mechanism or mechanisms that prevent evolution from "going farther" (a concept unknown to science).

Creationists cannot or will not offer a metric by which they define as "kinds." It is clear and a demonstrable fact that hum,ans are apes. There are several extant apes other than humans: does that make us an ape "kind?" Where and how do Creationists know what evolutionary lineage is and is not an ape "kind?"

I have asked Creationists this question for 30+ years, and not even one has been able to answer using evidence.

By the way, why did the gods make us apes?

Also, if we look like the gods (that is: they look like us), that makes the gods apes. What planet did these ape gods evolve on?
 
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Er... ah... AronRa has produced dozens of videos and hundreds of talks regarding this. Professional Creationists have come up with at least a dozen explanations for why this is type of "macroevolution" and several dozen excuses for why "macroevolution" cannot happen due to a mechanism or mechanisms that prevent evolution from "going farther" (a concept unknown to science).

Creationists cannot or will not offer a metric by which they define as "kinds." It is clear and a demonstrable fact that hum,ans are apes. There are several extant apes other than humans: does that make us an ape "kind?" Where and how do Creationists know what evolutionary lineage is and is not an ape "kind?"

I have asked Creationists this question for 30+ years, and not even one has been able to answer using evidence.

By the way, why did the gods make us apes?

Also, if we look like the gods (that is: they look like us), that makes the gods apes. What planet did these ape gods evolve on?
Actually they have provided methods by which they identify and distinguish between "Kinds".... It's just that the results end up undermining the argument they're trying to make. So instead of "Kinds" being evidently unrelated, they end up being nearly indistinguishable.

Showing some surprisingly similar Animal and Plant Baramins (Kinds), 2020: [citations within link]
 
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Why should women be forced to carry through a pregnancy that is unwanted
Gee. Why should any of us do anything? It's all too hard!
Why shouldn't a person be allowed to end their life with dignity and if they do how does it effect you or the rest of society.?
There is no dignity in suicide. Even a planned suicide. Would you feel dignified in letting a loved one kill themself? That is insane. It is hard to let people take care of you when you are sick. But your loved ones can only really show you that they love you when it is hard. Society needs this.

What does is matter to you if a person wants to change their sex and if they do how does it effect you or the rest of society?
The idea that a man can become a woman by having fake boobs implanted is the purest form of sexism I can imagine. A woman is more than boobs. You cant become a woman by having cosmetic surgery. This idea is insane.
 
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Actually they have provided methods by which they identify and distinguish between "Kinds".... It's just that the results end up undermining the argument they're trying to make. So instead of "Kinds" being evidently unrelated, they end up being nearly indistinguishable.

Showing some surprisingly similar Animal and Plant Baramins (Kinds), 2020: [citations within link]


Thank you for the "turtle kind" image--- they do indeed look like a "kind. (Funny: a few minutes ago I replied to a Creationist who implied that comparing how species look is not a good reason to conclude humans are one of the extant apes.)

Regarding a metric for "kind," I have read the ICR cult's attempt to define a biological "kind," and you are 100% correct: what they claim undermines what they claim.

Reverend Hovind's videos about "kinds" are self-contradictory: every species except humans can be grouped by "kinds,"yet he cannot offer a valid reason why humans are the only exception. I asked Reverend Hovind that question to his face after a sermon he gave, and his reply was "I just told you!"
 
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In the Netherlands we have a law that allow people euthanasia there 6 criteria that need to be followed. If done the doctor can assist with the euthanasia wishes.
 
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Gee. Why should any of us do anything? It's all too hard!
So an adolescent girl who has been raped and becomes pregnant should carry the child to term because it is hard? You have got to be kidding me. By your thinking it's OK for her to suffer the possible mental distress because it's hard. It's OK for her to potentiality become a single mother and have to see her dreams and ambitions set back by years because it's hard.
There is no dignity in suicide. Even a planned suicide. Would you feel dignified in letting a loved one kill themself? That is insane. It is hard to let people take care of you when you are sick. But your loved ones can only really show you that they love you when it is hard. Society needs this.
It's more than just letting people take care of you. There's also the quality of one's life. If one of my loved ones was suffering and did want to continue living because they could no longer enjoy life I wouldn't stand in their way. Why would I want to force them having to endure living when they could no enjoy life.
The idea that a man can become a woman by having fake boobs implanted is the purest form of sexism I can imagine. A woman is more than boobs. You cant become a woman by having cosmetic surgery. This idea is insane.
It's more than just surgery. It's the mental and physical well being of the individual. I don't suppose you're aware that trans people have higher rate of suicide than the rest of the population. Oh wait, what were you saying about dignity and suicide? And wouldn't having cosmetic surgery to become man sexist also. After all there must be more to being a man than having a prick and a moustache.

Again, these kinds of choices that people make have no effect on your life what so ever unless they are a family member or a friend. Even then maybe the best thing would be to support their choice because it's hard.
 
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So an adolescent girl who has been raped and becomes pregnant should carry the child to term..?
Yes. Preserving innocent unborn lives benefits society. You dehumanize the mother by treating her as just a thing you can shove a vaccum hose into and suck and suck an unborn baby out of. We are human beings made in the image of God. Not pigs.
It's more than just letting people take care of you. There's also the quality of one's life. If one of my loved ones was suffering and did want to continue living because they could no longer enjoy life I wouldn't stand in their way. Why would I want to force them having to endure living when they could no enjoy life.
When you have a loved one who wants to commit suicide because they are sick and dying, it means you are doing something wrong.
It's more than just surgery. It's the mental and physical well being of the individual. I don't suppose you're aware that trans people have higher rate of suicide than the rest of the population. Oh wait, what were you saying about dignity and suicide? And wouldn't having cosmetic surgery to become man sexist also. After all there must be more to being a man than having a prick and a moustache.

Again, these kinds of choices that people make have no effect on your life what so ever unless they are a family member or a friend. Even then maybe the best thing would be to support their choice because it's hard.
Right, because its a lie that you can have a fake penis put on you and then you will be a man. I actually know a beautiful young girl who had her breasts removed and a fake penis put on and changed her name and everyone who knows her still knows shes a girl. The lie does not work. Of course she will be a suicide risk now.
 
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Yes. Preserving innocent unborn lives benefits society. You dehumanize the mother by treating her as just a thing you can shove a vaccum hose into and suck and suck an unborn baby out of. We are human beings made in the image of God. Not pigs.
Not all abortions are done using the method you describe. I think it is more dehumanizing to not allow a woman to have a choice, after all it's her body and life, not yours, or some religious organizations. As for the image of god, which one? Zeus, Osiris, Anubis, Cthuhlu, FSM? I also seem to recall that the Christian god required a rapist to marry the victim, thus giving the victim the opportunity to be victimized for the rest of their live. How is that not treating a rape victim like a pig?
 
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Not all abortions are done using the method you describe.
I'm thrilled.
I also seem to recall that the Christian god required a rapist to marry the victim, thus giving the victim the opportunity to be victimized for the rest of their live.
You actually just recall someone telling you that and maybe showing you a weird version of the Bible that no one has ever heard of or something like that.

Maybe I am biased, but it seems to me that the over-all message given in the Bible is redundant enough so that we know what the actual message is. For example if "Thou shall not have any other gods before me" got mistranslated into "Thou shall have..." we would know that an error has been made.

If you are referring to Dueteronemy Chapter 29 or something around there then I think is the actual message that if a couple engage in premarital sex, then they should get married. Or something like that.
 
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I'm thrilled.

You actually just recall someone telling you that and maybe showing you a weird version of the Bible that no one has ever heard of or something like that.

Maybe I am biased, but it seems to me that the over-all message given in the Bible is redundant enough so that we know what the actual message is. For example if "Thou shall not have any other gods before me" got mistranslated into "Thou shall have..." we would know that an error has been made.

If you are referring to Dueteronemy Chapter 29 or something around there then I think is the actual message that if a couple engage in premarital sex, then they should get married. Or something like that.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29

“If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.”

Pretty clear to me the woman is forced to Mary the rapist.
 
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Deuteronomy 22:28-29

“If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.”

Pretty clear to me the woman is forced to Mary the rapist.
I was too lazy too look it up. Looks like you have a good point.

But It seems to me to be a re-itteration of Exodus 22:26 "If a man seduces a virgin[a] who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride-price[b] for her and make her his wife."

Im not an expert in ancient languages. But it seems back then whenever sex is involved it was kinda normal to refer to the man as the aggressor. Which is generally how life works. They might write something like "Abraham took Sarah for a wife" But I dont believe this means he physically took her and kidnapped her or something like that.

Sorry I dont have a better answer.

There were times I think when God commanded everyone of thier enemies to be killed except for virgins or something like that. So basically
 
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