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Explaining Macroevolution to a creationist

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Sorry. I've been saving that joke for fucking months.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,

Might I make a suggestion before I go to bed?

If John deletes his ad hominem post, and follow-ups, the rest of us - or the Mods - will delete our responses, including this one.

John can then answer Aron's questions.

As there are three sections to Aron's questionnaire, he only has to answer three questions - one from each section, with a "No", the ones where his acceptance-level breaks down.

Does this make sense? Is this acceptable to you, John?

Good night.

Kindest regards,

James
 
arg-fallbackName="JohnHeintz"/>
Greetings,

What's your problem, John?

Aron asked you a series of yes-or-no questions to try and find out where your acceptance-level ends, that's all. You didn't answer his earlier yes-or-no question, despite his asking it several times, and even when I asked you to answer it, you didn't.

Now you behave in a defensive manner when given a questionnaire to answer.

I think Spar was right earlier when he said that you don't want to give up your cherished beliefs, hence your reaction when faced with an either-or scenario.

I think you should apologise to Aron for your ad hominem, it's quite unbecoming of someone who complained about profanity.

Kindest regards,

James
The problem. Is that Larry is a condescending , egotistical , narcissistic asshole.
 
arg-fallbackName="JohnHeintz"/>
And thus all the concern trolling about profanity is exposed as being the manipulations of an intellectually bankrupt lying little shit-eater who wouldn't know honesty if it was fucking him up the arse. Show yourself out, there's a good twat.
When you went off like a fanboy pussy defending your beloved Larry. You opted right out of my engagement with any conversation of the topic.
Nothing was said to you. It was between me and another member.
 
arg-fallbackName="JohnHeintz"/>
Greetings,

Might I make a suggestion before I go to bed?

If John deletes his ad hominem post, and follow-ups, the rest of us - or the Mods - will delete our responses, including this one.

John can then answer Aron's questions.

As there are three sections to Aron's questionnaire, he only has to answer three questions - one from each section, with a "No", the ones where his acceptance-level breaks down.

Does this make sense? Is this acceptable to you, John?

Good night.

Kindest regards,

James
I appreciate what you're trying to do. But Larry is just an unreasonable douchebag.
I have zero interest in answering any of his questions.
 
arg-fallbackName="JohnHeintz"/>
Your mother told me I was a douche.

I said I thought it was a little harsh, but it did explain why she smelled better after I fucked her.
Hey, we agree on something. You are a douche.
And let's be honest. You seem more like a receiver. If anything, you would have been pumped by someone's Dad. Like I imagine your father probably did to you growing up.
 
arg-fallbackName="We are Borg"/>
Why is it so hard to talk in a normal tone and in a respectful way when an admin ask this. I do not care who you are but everyone needs to cool down have respect to one and other, debate but do not attack the person. From this post forward anyone that attacks someone will get warnings in the infraction system, to many point taken will get an time out. *SD* and me want to talk with you all and not to have police everyone be respectful and debate the posts.
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
When you went off like a fanboy pussy defending your beloved Larry. You opted right out of my engagement with any conversation of the topic.
Nothing was said to you. It was between me and another member.

John, you're trying this vapid trolling with a guy you spent a weekl childishly ignoring just because I said that I don't think you realize your own motivation. You actually stated, out loud, on an internet forum that you weren't talking to me, like a spoiled little child... and now you're once again trying to get a rise out of me by talking about fucking my mother (I hope you enjoy fucking a 65 year old lady who's been in a wheelchair for 45 years!) - grow up man, for crying out loud -so you fees fees were hurt: suck it up buttercup. And this is a PUBLIC forum, John. If you want to send private love letters, use PMs.

Instead, as you're still here and still haven't addressed the numerous questions posed to you - I think you're exemplifying what I talked about before: you're unwilling to examine your beliefs because subconsciously you realize they don't hold together, and you're angry at people here for exposing that feeling.
 
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arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
I have zero interest in answering any of his questions.

That's precisely what we've been saying for this entire thread: you have absolutely no interest in answering any questions.

What makes that even more difficult to grasp is that you supposedly came here to address the Phylogeny Challenge which literally requires only 1 thing of you - to answer questions.
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
A long jumper can train and add inches to his jump (micro) however even if he trains for years he will never be able to jump a mile (macro).

This is still the most fundamental error you're making, and you don't seem able to get past it.

You never need to have long-jumped in your life to jump a mile, assuming you're allowed to make a series of jumps (generation by generation) of any size, they will eventually add up to a mile.

That's analogous to the scientific theory of evolution, whereas what you're contending is actually how Pokemon works.

Populations evolve, not individuals. If you can't grasp this, then you literally have no hope of ever understanding the cornerstone of modern Biology.
 
arg-fallbackName="JohnHeintz"/>
That's precisely what we've been saying for this entire thread: you have absolutely no interest in answering any questions.

What makes that even more difficult to grasp is that you supposedly came here to address the Phylogeny Challenge which literally requires only 1 thing of you - to answer questions.
I never came here to address the phylogeny challenge.
Larry made a claim in another group.
"In 12 exchanges I would totally accept universal common ancestry and realise how ridiculous creationism was and that I would not be able to believe that I ever considered creation"
 
arg-fallbackName="Nesslig20"/>
I have yet to receive answers to my questions as well...
...or do you think anyone who is asking questions to you is a an "unreasonable, condescending, egotistical, narcissistic asshole"?

I never came here to address the phylogeny challenge. Larry made a claim in another group.
"In 12 exchanges I would totally accept universal common ancestry and realise how ridiculous creationism was and that I would not be able to believe that I ever considered creation"
What makes you think those two are mutually exclusive? In fact, those two are pretty much intertwined. He invited you to have a conversation to convince you of common ancestry. In order to do that, he must ask you which organisms you think are related, and which are not, and WHY you think that. How did you make that determination? That's the phylogeny challenge.

What you are doing now is analogous to accepting a conversation on the existence of forests, but you refuse to answer questions about trees.

You don't get to ignore relevant questions after accepting to have an interactive exchange with someone.

P.S. Who the fuck is "Larry"?
 
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arg-fallbackName="JohnHeintz"/>
No. The challenge /claim was made and the 12 exchanges were supposed to be with Larry.
It should have been done in a private message setting. I suggested this to Larry. He wanted it public. I was not here for a group discussion.
 
arg-fallbackName="JohnHeintz"/>
I have yet to receive answers to my questions as well...
...or do you think anyone who is asking questions to you is a an "unreasonable, condescending, egotistical, narcissistic asshole"?


What makes you think those two are mutually exclusive? In fact, those two are pretty much intertwined. He invited you to have a conversation to convince you of common ancestry. In order to do that, he must ask you which organisms you think are related, and which are not, and WHY you think that. How did you make that determination? That's the phylogeny challenge.

What you are doing now is analogous to accepting a conversation on the existence of forests, but you refuse to answer questions about trees.

You don't get to ignore relevant questions after accepting to have an interactive exchange with someone.

P.S. Who the fuck is "Larry"?
P.s. who the fuck is Larry?
You don't know Lawrence Nelson. Aka Aron Ra. Aka Absolute abrasive tool.
 
arg-fallbackName="*SD*"/>
What's the issue with it being publicly visible?

Either way, you aren't obliged to respond to anyone at all, but if you agreed to discuss with aron, you could just respond to him and ignore everyone else's posts (unless it's a point of moderation obviously)
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
No. The challenge /claim was made and the 12 exchanges were supposed to be with Larry.
It should have been done in a private message setting. I suggested this to Larry. He wanted it public. I was not here for a group discussion.

The number of excuses you're racking up is frankly perplexing. If you're not willing to engage at all, what are you still doing here? Just want to fight with strangers on the internet?
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
This is still the most fundamental error you're making, and you don't seem able to get past it.

You never need to have long-jumped in your life to jump a mile, assuming you're allowed to make a series of jumps (generation by generation) of any size, they will eventually add up to a mile.

That's analogous to the scientific theory of evolution, whereas what you're contending is actually how Pokemon works.

Populations evolve, not individuals. If you can't grasp this, then you literally have no hope of ever understanding the cornerstone of modern Biology.


See?

Completely ignored.

But yeah, you're sincerely interested and here to discuss in good faith! :rolleyes:
 
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