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Ridiculous U.S. gun laws.

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These sort of statements - and others - is why some here have accused you of being racist.

The Blut und Boden hokey, bigoted crap?

Yup, that's a sure fire way to say 'take me seriously'.

Some people will naturally just not wish to engage with such a nasty little fuckwit anymore, and I can well understand and appreciate that.

But that ain't for me.

Racist twats like this either i) squeak ii) flounce or iii) learn.

I really doubt it's the latter here.
 
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Stupendous work in this thread, James.
 
arg-fallbackName="BoganUSAFFLClerk"/>
Come at me bros!

*later*

I don't know what I did wrong, but all the meanies think I'm a twat.
Its called a personality: Why don't you grow a brain and consider maybe just maybe characters that use "come at me bro" on an online forum are sarcastic.
 
arg-fallbackName="BoganUSAFFLClerk"/>
This is hilarious. Guy who works in a store wants to career-shame an anthropologist and film maker who's made a solid life of world travel by teaching English.

Dude, you've got about 30 seconds of life experience in comparison, no matter your age.
Cool post a movie you made.
 
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:D

I missed that one! That's hilarious.

I have to confess though..... all I ever wanted was to work in retail! All these years of searching far and wide, and I could have just stayed home and worked in a nearby shop....
I don't think you understand the full scope of what I do. Let me give you a hint. I teach just like Hackenslash does only I teach firearms. That isn't retail.
 
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I don't think you understand the full scope of what I do. Let me give you a hint. I teach just like Hackenslash does only I teach firearms. That isn't retail.
Dude, don't try to compare your teaching to ours. You're a salesman.
 
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With all due respect, Bogan, the reason why this topic took a wrong turn is because you made a spurious claim - immigrants cause (violent) crime.
Well only 1 person (greg) actually engaged with the topic specifically and the rest actually involved insults or replies of replies if you look from start to current posts.
When this was challenged, and multiple studies were drawn to your attention conclusively proving that there's no correlation between immigration and violent crime, instead of acknowledging your error and allowing the main topic to be discussed, you've doubled-down on it. Throughout the thread, you've attempted to add qualifiers in a vain attempt to make your claim work - the current version being, "(illegal) immigrants cause (a increase in) (violent) crime".
Adding qualifiers is being more specific as no one actually asked narrowing questions as to exactly what I was talking about. I was vague because it was a suggestion of who contributes to crime and if they should be here at all to begin with in general. Why because I didn't really hold an interest to it because it doesn't have anything to do with the topic of the thread so with having low to no interest arguments are going to be lazy.
These sort of statements - and others - is why some here have accused you of being racist.
You made a similar statement earlier, which you explained away as "an observation".
Do you think they proved their claim of being a racist? I think not. I think it is more a symptom of lefty victim Olympics who can fain the most offense wins.
There are no genetic factors based on "race" - in case your comment is prompted by the idea that there are "five races" based on skin-colour (white, yellow, red, brown, and black): this is an anachronism of a bygone age.
If there are no genetic factors based on race then how do people tell race via a blood sample? That is literally a DNA test in order to prove your race. Damn it I am doing it again. What does this have to do with the topic? Its like 20 pages of irrelevant stuff.
In case no-one has told you, we're all African: there's only one human species.
If we are all African then why does it say different on my identification or on your birth certificate?
To which I'll add another factor: a recent study shows that - even if you're a law-abiding citizen - you can get arrested, and end up in prison, if you happen to live during a period of "zero-tolerance" policies on crime.
How's that? If you abide by the law how do they prosecute you?
This was in response to my point that your claim wasn't based on any crime statistics but merely because they were in the country illegally.
Actually Border Control has a few statistics but they are lacking. As the problem with U.S. statistics is that certain information is not obtainable or you have to extrapolate out results based on the information you do have. This skips quite a few categories for criminal arrests and not all crimes are recorded but we do see a partial picture. Also these figures do not represent the criminal records these illegals had from other countries or convictions that were not illegal considering the laws of the U.S. so that information is entirely absent. Multiple convictions on the same person are also discounted on the totals on the top of the summary.
In arguing that illegal immigrants acted as mules for drug cartels, the implication was that all of them used people-smugglers linked to such, and then became involved in crime for the cartels.
Sure that is an assumption though no one asked to clarify in order to fairly confirm what I am actually meaning which further compounds the intent of not wanting to cite anything or explain things with a finer point as people clearly little interest. Do you think most people would simply roll their eyes and walk away given the same or similar situation?
The simpler solution is to assimilate them through providing ways for them to gain citizenship.
About 1/4 of the total immigrant pool are illegal 10.5m

That number hasn't decreased even when programs allowing easier application of being a citizen was extended along with immunity to such undocumented persons. Clearly judging from this they don't want to be citizens not when immigration sanctuaries are established. Why would you pay for the extra cost when you have a state guarantee that you won't be prosecuted?

That would be like me having an unregistered suppressor and being in clear violation of the NFA but I lived in Texas and so state law makes it legal for me to possess said suppressor. Why would I pay the extra funds to be legal federally when I am technically legal in the state in which I reside?
And, yes - as you noted - not as many do as could, quite possibly because they don't trust the government any more than you.
They have a written guarantee in the law granting them citizenship if they passed the full exam just like any other prospective applicant. But they didn't take that opportunity. So I think they should deported if not worse given their willful ignoring of law and the continued ignoring of law when they were given an out.
Given they come from the same culture - and "bloodlines" - why focus on the fact that they're in America illegally?
Why should they be treated special considering other immigrants wait in line and put up with the bureaucracy? The general purpose of having a society is that everyone agrees to comply with the rules of that society. You are sending the message that it doesn't really matter if you wait and do things properly you can get special treatment even if you are literal criminal and we don't prosecute you.

The irony here is that people want verification processes on everything else except granting government funds to literal criminals. Doesn't it make since to vet who you are letting into your society? We don't know these people and the left ironically argues you need to present and be verified to buy a gun but you can enter and be a possible threat in the country. I take huge issue with this.
Individuals may or may not be anti-gun. And there's no reason to assume that Mexicans, as a culture, are anti-gun, particularly given the amount of violent crime you appear to associate with them based on homicides in Mexico.
Mexican law is very anti gun. Most places in the world are anti gun. The culture in Mexico is one that is you go to the one authorized dealer of firearms in Mexico or you may not own firearms. The culture in Mexico and in most places have horrible education on firearms and I routinely hear stupid and nonsensical arguments on firearms that have nothing to do with the technical reality of the firearms they are talking about. A MAY issue government simply to possess is inherently tyrannical and anti American.
Yes, gang-related violence is a issue in America. As I pointed out above with regard to social construction of communities, America's policies aren't helping,
So keep importing people in here without fixing our own house then? The entire concept I keep saying is to address and focus on the needs of U.S. citizens first and foremost. U.S. politicians have no duty or obligation to go after the needs of anyone else period. The U.S. is vast and complicated and they need to go through system to make it efficient and effective. They shouldn't be kowtowing to people that aren't even citizens and have no right to be here to begin with. No expense should go to those people America needs to get on track and to do that they need fierce focus.
Fair enough, however, the fact that they are willing to join the armed forces in order to gain citizenship is indicative of their wish to assimilate - and their doing so also shows that they're not anti-gun.
Joining the armed forces is the easiest way to become a citizen. However, if you enter the country illegally the basis is you don't care to hold yourself to U.S. law. To enter is a criminal offense. Depending on what you do while being investigated such as lying about your status that would add to the list of crimes.

I don't think the opportunity to be granted citizenship should be offered to illegals. Or joining the military at all if you have repeat criminal offenses that have no been addressed via a pardon or any other status clearing way in the U.S.. Why do we want to arm criminals in the military?

Why should illegals be given citizenship ahead of others that have put up with the system and done so per instruction and the requirements to enter legally? Simply they shouldn't that is totally unfair to the people acting on the level. We should encourage acting on the level and not encourage subversion or encourage dishonesty.
If you read any of the economic sources to which I linked, you'll see that immigrants have created over 200 companies with a net worth of hundreds of billions of dollars, and jobs for those born in America. Given this, it seems petty to complain about the sums being sent back to their families.
That doesn't tell me if they actually helped the U.S.. They might be encouraging "Chinesium" products. What percentage of them use U.S. labor or do anything to correct the innate problems with a vast majority dependence on imported goods and services? Tax resources don't really help me that much. Getting U.S. production and investing in the U.S. for American services and goods over imports are far more important.
I'm reminded of a report I saw some years ago of a US state legislator who was a hard-liner on those in prisons - until he ended up inside himself. After he came out, he started campaigning for prison reform.
I advocate for prison reform as well. I don't care if you do drugs in your own house on your own time. Huge plurality of convicts simply have drug charges. I don't care about those. I say the people with the most convictions of VIOLENT crimes as it stands now should be executed with delay or appeal right now. Any who have gang affiliations in a leadership role likewise executed.

If you did this you would essentially break the gang and cartel leadership based in the U.S.. Low level thugs that are aiming to get more involved with organized crime which is where the majority of the crime comes from directly or indirectly would be reduced.
If you want to decrease the tide of immigrants into your country, change national policy to help those countries economies to improve - that way, immigrants will head home.
Or simply enforce the law. Do not grant programs EVEN FOR ILLEGALS (state). Offer no legal support whatsoever to them and give them warning to begin with. If this fails and they choose to repeatedly break the law then they die. It is no different than trespassing on my property and wanting access to my property. NO one has ANY right. It is entirely a privilege and up to being granted and not taken.
 
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I will provide a link to the thread, as is customary for forums. Anyone that wants can read through your posts and see for themselves.
That doesn't grant any context specifically. It is like me posting a link as a refutation. Without explanation or specification citation that is WORTHLESS. As it still requires an inference on my part.
Most people are not as inept as you when it comes to navigating a forum.
Depends how long they are in the forum. You are a bit short sighted. Or depends on device. It is harder to view depending on the format of the site.
Yeah. You being unaware of how a forum works has backfired on me. Boomer.
You are ever aware of everything going on around you at all times eh? Someone has a God complex.
 
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Dude, don't try to compare your teaching to ours. You're a salesman.
I think it is far more important what I teach as it is literally a topic of life or death. I teach improperly and someone dies. You teach someone improperly and they don't speak well.

I'll be right back I have to go produce another movie. Oh wait its done:


Oh wait I produced another movie. Damn Hollywood be jealous. Way better than Star Wars:
 
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Where is the incentive for me to believe anything you say? Caught red-handed.
I'll leave it to others to explain why this fucking dickhead has managed to get it horribly wrong yet again despite the solution being right there in front of him.

Dude, I've left things in the toilet bowl smarter than you, and having considerably more insight into reality. It's quite fucking hilarious how badly you'd be embarrassing yourself if you weren't such a complete fucking dunce that you don't get how horribly you're being mangled.

There's a famous internet tale, often delivered in the hushed tones of mythology; the ballad of JP22.

JP22 was somebody who rocked up to an audio recording forum, asked form some advice, and then proceeded to spend several weeks, in increasingly shrill tones (much like your output), disputing and disagreeing with experts.

I say a tale delivered in the tones of mythology only because I was there, and I know what happened. Yes, by the way, my profession is music and music production, now medically retired and a science writer of more repute than I warrant but less than others who warrant less.

I have more intelligent entities to interact with. Like racists (I mean other than this racist), and fuckwits, and slime molds.

I've ejaculated more neurons in the final scrape of a three day orgy than this muppet has ever possessed.

And by the way, are you still here, bigoted fuckwit?
 
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Again, racist undertones.
I think that was pretty overt.
Individuals may or may not be anti-gun. And there's no reason to assume that Mexicans, as a culture, are anti-gun, particularly given the amount of violent crime you appear to associate with them based on homicides in Mexico.
I laughed so hard when he said Mexicans were anti-gun. I doubt he has ever met a Mexican (of any generation).
Well, setting aside that I didn't actually say I was a move maker, sure.
BoganUSAFFLClerk does not have the best reading comprehension.
If we are all African then why does it say different on my identification or on your birth certificate?
Wait... what? Does it say your race on your identification? Is that because you looked at your Klan Kard? I just looked at my driver's license, and it has nothing on it identifying my race.
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Where is the incentive for me to believe anything you say? Caught red-handed.
See Hackenslash, poor reading comprehension. But, again, I am getting dandan/leroy vibes.
I will provide a link to the thread, as is customary for forums. Anyone that wants can read through your posts and see for themselves.
That doesn't grant any context specifically. It is like me posting a link as a refutation. Without explanation or specification citation that is WORTHLESS. As it still requires an inference on my part.
What? Linking to the thread and telling people to read through it is not granting any context? It is not a long thread.
Depends how long they are in the forum. You are a bit short sighted. Or depends on device. It is harder to view depending on the format of the site.
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You are ever aware of everything going on around you at all times eh? Someone has a God complex.
Well, I am sorry I thought you were a competent adult. I will not make that mistake again.
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
Its called a personality:

You think you have a personality?

You're an unthinking little drone who's pounding his chest at people over the received wisdom he uncritically bought into.


Why don't you grow a brain and consider maybe just maybe characters that use "come at me bro" on an online forum are sarcastic.

Did I suggest it wasn't sarcastic? Whatever else it was, it was also juvenile trolling.

You came here to troll. We all know. We all have you pegged. If you think you've fooled someone, that's because you're a functional moron.
 
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I don't think you understand the full scope of what I do. Let me give you a hint. I teach just like Hackenslash does only I teach firearms. That isn't retail.

You work in retail. You can rub yourself off as furiously as you like, but the fact remains you work in retail.

As I said, I am not shaming you for that reason - all jobs are valuable, because society needs people to do all jobs, and people who need to feed their families will do any job to achieve that - people don't deserve disrespect based on their job.

But you keep pretending you're something that you're not. You're a retail assistant. You want respect, and you think rubbing yourself off in public is going to earn you that respect, but like everything else here; you don't get respect by being a racist, juvenile little troll - feel free to find the appropriate turning to Go Fuck Yourself.
 
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